I think TA should get behind JOOF here, come on we have all voted for shits and giggles in the past aka dj mikey mike. I am all for trying to get this scene back on track, not being at the core it is hard as a punter to do so. For those who say "who really cares about the poll". Ask any dj/producer about it and they will all say that in fact it increases your exposure world wide, promoters will book a number and not on talent. The higher up the chain you go, the more $$$ you will get. It's a business strategy.

So many times i have said i don't like a dj and the response i get is "But he was voted number 1 in the world, he must be good". What absolute bollox, for years TA members have been saying how shit this poll is. JOOF has a pretty good strategy and really isn't in it to get to the prestige #1 position. So i don't get the rationale for the shit being slung at him & I don't see it as "gathering more fans".

Either you vote for him, or don't that's all it comes down to.

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Originally posted by Lews I'm confused as to exactly what you want to create. Your own "Bedrock" night? Isn't that what your J00F nights are, already? Or what do you mean by a "specialist club."

yeah this needs more explanation

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The electronic music scene is finally starting to split into two divisions...which I think will eventually make the music stronger in the end. You are now starting to see a bigger divide between the commercial cheese filled music and the more underground music. DJs and producers are starting to make their divisions as to which side they want to be a part of. The big cheese will soak up the media attention and fill all the big clubs while the underground will do exactly that...go underground to the smaller venues.

What I figure will happen is the fans of the big cheese music will grow up and stop listening to this music because there is always some new shiny piece of metal to look at. The fans of the underground sound will continue with it and it will grow and will eventually become the cheese music of the next generation...leaving the underground fans to split again.

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Originally posted by narcism I think TA should get behind JOOF here, come on we have all voted for shits and giggles in the past aka dj mikey mike. I am all for trying to get this scene back on track, not being at the core it is hard as a punter to do so. For those who say "who really cares about the poll". Ask any dj/producer about it and they will all say that in fact it increases your exposure world wide, promoters will book a number and not on talent. The higher up the chain you go, the more $$$ you will get. It's a business strategy. So many times i have said i don't like a dj and the response i get is "But he was voted number 1 in the world, he must be good". What absolute bollox, for years TA members have been saying how shit this poll is. JOOF has a pretty good strategy and really isn't in it to get to the prestige #1 position. So i don't get the rationale for the shit being slung at him & I don't see it as "gathering more fans". Either you vote for him, or don't that's all it comes down to.

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Originally posted by John 00 Fleming The one benefit I saw from being in the poll, was corporate companies approaching me for sponsorship. This is my reasoning for maybe giving it a shot again. I can then get sponsorship to start building a community to support the specialist scene, something that doesn't exist out there. Regardless of the poll or not, I'm going to make this happen either way and need help and support, there's a HUGE job ahead.

Since we are talking about building a "revolution" that comes from the people that would like something different to exist again. Why not ask these people to donate money in exchange of being part of this "revolution"? And only later go to sponsors making them aware that there is a large audience that is starting a new underground movement? Given all the online tools we have available today to make something like this happen I would give it a shot and if it doesn't work it probably just mean that even getting you to number 20-50 on this idiotic poll (lower is probably impossible today) won't change all that much, except for just yourself personally.

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Originally posted by John 00 Fleming Thanks for being so kind this time, I'm taking my brave pill coming into the forum

Well credit where credit is due, you don't have a glass chin.

Thing is though, these scene you desire has gone. It won't come back.

There are so many decent DJs here alone that I don't go looking for CDs or mixes by the big names hardly because I know the DJs I follow on here and else where consistently deliver decent music.

Some of my friends and associates throw on events that don't get more than a hundred people through the door in some little club/bar, but they hire a loud as fuck sound system and everyone there is present for the music or their mates and it's a good vibe.

Being truthful I see that as the only way the underground movement will continue. Apart from maybe big name DJs going back to grass roots and being willing to play some shit hole in the corner of nowhere for a dozen people on E.

Go with the flow J00F, you'll always have your fans. Even Bond adapts to his environment.

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Originally posted by John 00 Fleming Thanks for being so kind this time, I'm taking my brave pill coming into the forum

I would take the positive response as a massive sign of respect, it isn't a common thing

I've never voted in this poll, but if it will help in any infintesimally tiny way you have mine this time around, least I can do for one of the best sets I've ever experienced in Melbourne many moons ago. Will keep across your efforts.

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Originally posted by Euforix But I don't know how a single trance listener can do? J00F talks about big changes but not so much about the instructions, or then I have misunderstood something.

The trance listener can vote for JOOF. He is in a position of power, more than anyone on this board, to make some good out of this poll.

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Originally posted by Trancefxs Why not ask these people to donate money in exchange of being part of this "revolution"?

HAHAH please we live in a society where people don't even buy music anymore, as if you are going to get people to "donate" money.

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Originally posted by evo8 yeah this needs more explanation

This explains it perfectly, the scene is all about gimmicks these days.

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Originally posted by Tweak I would take the positive response as a massive sign of respect, it isn't a common thing I've never voted in this poll, but if it will help in any infintesimally tiny way you have mine this time around, least I can do for one of the best sets I've ever experienced in Melbourne many moons ago. Will keep across your efforts.

Are you coming to Friday nights gig?

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nice discussion going on here. while some people might not agree with the medium j00f is using to achieve his goal, his motive is spot on. j00f, you got my support!

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Originally posted by narcism HAHAH please we live in a society where people don't even buy music anymore, as if you are going to get people to "donate" money.

Donate wasn't a good word choice from my part, but people are willing to give their money away if they can get value out of it. Also such an initiative would be targeted to people that still give some value to the music they listen to.
If the only way this scene can comeback to a different standard is through sponsorships based on a dj poll ranking, I doubt this revival has any chance to be sustainable.

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Originally posted by John 00 Fleming ... The one benefit I saw from being in the poll, was corporate companies approaching me for sponsorship. This is my reasoning for maybe giving it a shot again. I can then get sponsorship to start building a community to support the specialist scene, something that doesn't exist out there. ...

And Armin Van Buuren, can't he help ?