You have just proven my point Mike

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Originally posted by Miss Proximus You have just proven my point Mike

yup. and uve just proven mine

good

now that that's out of the way....back to the topic...back to homophobes

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Originally posted by Miss Proximus now that that's out of the way....back to the topic...back to homophobes

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Originally posted by Miss Proximus I agree that this board is filled with homophobes and I think it's pathetic.

and what about Arachnophobic people. Are they pathetic for being fearful of spiders? Its not pathetic to hav a phobia of something. Its pathetic to be racist yes.. but not to hav a phobia

I generally don't have a problem with people using the term gay in a derogatory term, as long as its not directed to homosexuals. The reason for this is that gay doesn't technically mean homosexual, and even if it did the way everyone uses it and percives is is not saying homosexuals are bad, but rather thats just shit. My parents are freinds with some homosexual guys, they were at my house one day and I called my freind gay, and then I was like oh shit there here, and they didnt care it doesn't bother them etc, so it really shouldnt bother us :P

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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike and what about Arachnophobic people. Are they pathetic for being fearful of spiders? Its not pathetic to hav a phobia of something. Its pathetic to be racist yes.. but not to hav a phobia

Well, in a way, it IS pathetic. you see, having a phobia means you have an irrational fear of smth. And irrational means you don't have a legitimate reason to fear it. Therefore still fearing it, after you've been told there's nothing to be afraid of, is pathetic
How mean is that huh

See, I'm slightly afraid of flying. Aerophobia is actually a rational fear, as flying isn't rational for a human being. However, flying in an aircraft is perfectly safe, so, if I still have Aerophobia after I've been explained how incredibly safe flying is, I develop a phobia. An irrational fear of flying.

Anyhow, the word pathetic can be interpreted in several ways I believe.
Pathetic can mean you feel sorry for that person.
Pathetic can also mean you think that person IS a sorry-ass

As for homophobes, to me the second option counts. How irrational can a fear be!! You see, the classic homophobe is a person that is actually a homo him/her self , but (due to various reasons) is too afraid to admit it! Why would you be afraid of revealing your true identity!
Secondly, no gay person will just jump on you and rape you, so that's where the fear is irrational too! See, being a homo isn't contageous! Speaking of which..it isn't even a disease! It's who you are!

But still..if you want to be afraid of people that are differently...suit yourself. Just, for the sake of human intelligence and respect, keep it to yourself

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alright, now that the heat is off sothis and i

na j/k.....mikey mike, never met ya, but i've met proxi and i can truly say she is one cool ass girl! so i gotta back her up on this one. definantly not a "loser", but i do think its "gay" (tehehe, i crack myself up) how you just used the BEST comeback ever (sarcasm, its fun! )

and i thought this thread was about not using the term gay, not homophobia...different things in my mind, but ah well

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Originally posted by Miss Proximus Well, in a way, it IS pathetic. you see, having a phobia means you have an irrational fear of smth. And irrational means you don't have a legitimate reason to fear it. Therefore still fearing it, after you've been told there's nothing to be afraid of, is pathetic How mean is that huh

yes and another definition is:

"A strong fear, dislike, or aversion." ie. not irrational

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Anyhow, the word pathetic can be interpreted in several ways I believe. Pathetic can mean you feel sorry for that person. Pathetic can also mean you think that person IS a sorry-ass

it was pretty obvious what context you were using the word "pathetic" in so why bring this up?

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Secondly, no gay person will just jump on you and rape you, so that's where the fear is irrational too! See, being a homo isn't contageous! Speaking of which..it isn't even a disease! It's who you are!

what the hell are u talking about.. of course this happens. Its not just woman that get raped by men u no. If there is a homosexual going round in your area raping men (and believe me this does happen more than u'd think) then you would quite rightly be more cautious.

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But still..if you want to be afraid of people that are differently...suit yourself.

since when does being gay make you different from others?

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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike what the hell are u talking about.. of course this happens. Its not just woman that get raped by men u no. If there is a homosexual going round in your area raping men (and believe me this does happen more than u'd think) then you would quite rightly be more cautious.

You know bloody well () that I'm not talking about that.
Shit, I would be totally blind if I would deny the fact that some homosexual people are rapists too. But if THAT's what you fear..then shouldn't all women have a phobia of men?
I feel many homophobic men feel all homosexual men are hitting on them..simply being nice to get to strip their pants. And THAT'S what I feel is irrational. I am a woman, but I'm most definitely NOT attracted to all men on the planet, so why on earth would homosexual people be attratcted to ALL people of their own sex? See my point?

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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike since when does being gay make you different from others?

haha! you tried to nail me down on this one huh? but you didn't succeed!! you would''ve nailed me if I said homosexuals aren't NORMAL, like heterosexuals....but guess what..I didn't say that

Being gay certainly makes you different from others, since not every human being IS gay...just as being black makes you different from being white, being a woman makes you different from being a man...see what I mean?

Now...amaze me again Mikey

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btw..Pat, you are one coolass guy

Mayday 2003?

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Originally posted by Miss Proximus [quote] You know bloody well () that I'm not talking about that. Shit, I would be totally blind if I would deny the fact that some homosexual people are rapists too.

ok my bad. i didnt really read into what you said enough.

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But if THAT's what you fear..then shouldn't all women have a phobia of men?

if it is known that there is a rapist in the area then of course. That was the point i was making. What i was saying is that it isnt totally unacceptable to be homophobic if you hav good reason to be.

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I feel many homophobic men feel all homosexual men are hitting on them..simply being nice to get to strip their pants. And THAT'S what I feel is irrational.

i can assure u that there are a hell of a lot of men out there that just chat women up to get into there pants. What makes you think its any differnt when a man comes onto another man.

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I am a woman, but I'm most definitely NOT attracted to all men on the planet, so why on earth would homosexual people be attratcted to ALL people of their own sex? See my point?

fair point

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you would''ve nailed me if I said homosexuals aren't NORMAL, like heterosexuals....but guess what..I didn't say that

i no u didnt. But u may as well hav. You said they are "different" which we can all draw conclusions from this that you meant gay people are different. Well.. i got news for ya. They arent.. there just like me, you, and pretty much every other wanker in the world. What you could hav said is that there "sexuality is different" not that they are.

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Being gay certainly makes you different from others, since not every human being IS gay...just as being black makes you different from being white, being a woman makes you different from being a man...see what I mean?

just to further my point above, not everyone has blonde hair but u wouldnt call them different would you?

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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike if it is known that there is a rapist in the area then of course. That was the point i was making. What i was saying is that it isnt totally unacceptable to be homophobic if you hav good reason to be.

I just have to agree with you on that! If people wouldn't be afraid if there was a rapist around they'd be ignorant fools!
Just a some people that think they can't get into an accident while driving

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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike i can assure u that there are a hell of a lot of men out there that just chat women up to get into there pants. What makes you think its any differnt when a man comes onto another man.

That's not different at all! I'm just saying no one should assume all homosexuals are always hitting on all people from their own sex. See, I have seen many people (men mostly) that think that. And I have many gay friends that laff in their face cuz they have better taste than to hit on those men

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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike i no u didnt. But u may as well hav. You said they are "different" which we can all draw conclusions from this that you meant gay people are different. Well.. i got news for ya. They arent.. there just like me, you, and pretty much every other wanker in the world. What you could hav said is that there "sexuality is different" not that they are. Just to further my point above, not everyone has blonde hair but u wouldnt call them different would you?

You right about the way people can draw conclusions about it. I shoudl know by now that people can take smth very differently than how I meant it

Anyhow, I think I should have put it differently.
See, I meant, all black people have a different coloured skin than white people...all blonde people have different coloured hair than all brown haired people, all homosexuals have a different sexual preference than heterosexual people, all italians have a different language than japanese...etc etc

haha boy, I really should take a shower now. I smell gay j/k

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