When I switched to Ableton from Reason, my productions started to really come together. Of course, Reason got me primed and ready for once I moved over to Ableton, it made me ripe for it, but switching really helped. Been about 2 solid years now.

I started with Fruity Loops as my first production software. Although it was very simple, I was not satisfied with the sound quality. I then upgraded to Reason, and I must say that I was impressed. Reason has great sound quality and the interface was very user friendly. I then went over to Ableton, and I will NEVER go to another DAW EVER! Ableton is easy to use, AND the sky is the limit regarding what you can do. Best of all, I can compose, arrange, mix and master a whole production on Ableton. VST's plug in very easily and the way everthing just comes together has been amazing for me. I reccomend Ableton to ANYONE AND EVERYONE!

FL is without doubt the easiest thing to use.

Try cubase for a mind fuck.

Shit knows how people actually write a tune in that fucking thing. I'd have better luck making a song in MS Paint or Calculator.

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Originally posted by Lunar Phase 7 Try cubase for a mind fuck. Shit knows how people actually write a tune in that fucking thing. I'd have better luck making a song in MS Paint or Calculator.

Aye even with tutorial videos I gave up after an hour.

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Originally posted by Lunar Phase 7 FL is without doubt the easiest thing to use. Try cubase for a mind fuck. Shit knows how people actually write a tune in that fucking thing. I'd have better luck making a song in MS Paint or Calculator.

Fucking Lol.

Cubase is a bit daunting the first time you use it but fuck me, you should have tried Logic right up to and including version 5 - utter mindfuck. What the fuck is the environment? You have to patch cables and shit just to make the metronome and some softsynths work. What the fuck is Hyperedit. You had to open a fucking separate window and edit velocities on thing thing that resembles a bad powerpoint presentation template. It took the ******s until version 8 to let you edit audio by clicking on the the fucking audio.

and don't get me started on Renoise (inb4 Storyteller comes out with "Real men sequence vertically" )

I always found cubase the simplest as it really is intuitive if you had ever done recording in a studio. So when I first used it in 1999 , it really didn't take any sort of learning. I would say Cubase is the simplest daw to learn, maybe protools as well.

I suppose if you have never played an instrument or been in a studio, it might seem weird.

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney I always found cubase the simplest as it really is intuitive if you had ever done recording in a studio. So when I first used it in 1999 , it really didn't take any sort of learning. I would say Cubase is the simplest daw to learn, maybe protools as well. I suppose if you have never played an instrument or been in a studio, it might seem weird.

Please explain how playing an instrument would aid in the use of cubase?

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Originally posted by DJ RANN and don't get me started on Renoise

Aye whats that all about??

Who ever thought that would be a good idea needs to go away and have serious words with them self!

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney

Now you are making me want to give Ableton another go. Used it for years, but we had a big fight a while back and have not spoken since.

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Originally posted by Lunar Phase 7 Please explain how playing an instrument would aid in the use of cubase?

ever wonder why they are called virtual instruments ? The process is very similar which is why anyone that has done any recording will find cubase has a zero learning curve. It just makes sense from a traditional standpoint. That isn't a judgement on the quality of the program, just how it relates to how things were done prior.

also , musicians on average tend to a little smarter than your average EDM button pusher hack so i suppose there is that aspect.

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney ever wonder why they are called virtual instruments ? The process is very similar which is why anyone that has done any recording will find cubase has a zero learning curve. It just makes sense from a traditional standpoint. That isn't a judgement on the quality of the program, just how it relates to how things were done prior. also , musicians on average tend to a little smarter than your average EDM button pusher hack so i suppose there is that aspect.

You have got to be a spastic.

Knowing a instrument (regardless of that irrelevant virtual instrument argument) will not help you with cubase's backward-ass, fuck-nugget of an interface.

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never said such

I said musicians tend to find it easier as musicians tend to record and people that record will see the parallels in both mediums. Regards to the virtual instrument argument, that was not posited by me. Perhaps you should read things a few times before replying as you seem to be missing much of what is said and replacing it with personal biases that you seem to want to sneak in to an argument i'm not part of. As Robyn would say, you are dancing with yourself. Lastly, some research on what an argument is, compared to a statement, or a rhetorical question would save your self much embarrassment.

How you fins cubase a mindfuck says much with little words. You will also find that musicians tend to favour linear based DAW's as it how recording was done before DAWs. Either way , i think you are putting too much emphasis on this point. The fact of the matter is that Cubase is extremely traditional and to find it difficult to learn says much about your capacity to learn anything. Are you an idiot, probably but that is neither relevant or nice.

I don't really care having a discussion with someone that has a very narrow viewpoint and a barely palpable insight into music to make the task of having to hip you to what is what quit painful.

moving on,

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