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Originally posted by Storyteller It's unfortate for someone to die this young. I do however think a lot of people have lost touch with reality after his death and I think he's unworthy of the demigod attention his passing is getting.

This. He was only CEO FFS, he wasn't the entire fucking R&D department.

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Originally posted by aquila This. He was only CEO FFS, he wasn't the entire fucking R&D department.

May you ask your self, there are endless R&D divisions in endless number of companies, but only one apple, sure there might be 10 times smarter and more innovative people in apple R&D, and more smarter people in other companies R&D, but its like having a race, on one side its the best car with no wheels, on the other side this average car with this very good wheels i might add, you will have that car win every time.

Now figure out by your self where do Steve jobs fit in this

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Stephen Fry posted a blog about Jobs's passing. Here's one bit:

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It is a very dismal business when a great personality dies and the world scrabbles about for comment, appraisal and judgment. I have been asked in the last 24 hours to appear and to write and to call in to join in the chorus of voices assessing the life and career of this remarkable man. But what was Steve Jobs? He wasn’t a brilliant and innovative electronics engineer like his partner and fellow Apple founder Steve Wozniak. Nor was he an acute businessman and aggressively talented opportunist like Bill Gates. He wasn’t a designer of original genius like Jonathan Ive whose achievements were so integral to Apple’s success from 1997 onwards. He wasn’t a software engineer, a mathematician, a nerd, a financier, an artist or an inventor. Most of the recent obituaries have decided that words like “visionary” suit him best and perhaps they are right. As always there are those who reveal their asininity (as they did throughout his career) with ascriptions like “salesman”, “showman” or the giveaway blunder “triumph of style over substance”. The use of that last phrase, “style over substance” has always been, as Oscar Wilde observed, a marvellous and instant indicator of a fool. For those who perceive a separation between the two have either not lived, thought, read or experienced the world with any degree of insight, imagination or connective intelligence. It may have been Leclerc Buffon who first said “le style c’est l’homme – the style is the man” but it is an observation that anyone with sense had understood centuries before, Only dullards crippled into cretinism by a fear of being thought pretentious could be so dumb as to believe that there is a distinction between design and use, between form and function, between style and substance. If the unprecedented and phenomenal success of Steve Jobs at Apple proves anything it is that those commentators and tech-bloggers and “experts” who sneered at him for producing sleek, shiny, well-designed products or who denigrated the man because he was not an inventor or originator of technology himself missed the point in such a fantastically stupid way that any employer would surely question the purpose of having such people on their payroll, writing for their magazines or indeed making any decisions on which lives, destinies or fortunes depended.

http://www.stephenfry.com/2011/10/0...bs/single-page/

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Originally posted by Vector A Stephen Fry posted a blog about Jobs's passing. Here's one bit: http://www.stephenfry.com/2011/10/0...bs/single-page/

this article introduces one idea and repeats it using different words, but the idea is something i agree with.

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Originally posted by cl0ckw3rk "Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life. Don't be trapped by dogma — which is living with the results of other people's thinking. Don't let the noise of others' opinions drown out your own inner voice. And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition. They somehow already know what you truly want to become. Everything else is secondary." - Steve Jobs

Dude.. dude... This.

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Originally posted by Storyteller It's unfortate for someone to die this young. I do however think a lot of people have lost touch with reality after his death and I think he's unworthy of the demigod attention his passing is getting.

Yes, and...

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Originally posted by Aquila This. He was only CEO FFS, he wasn't the entire fucking R&D department.

Yes.

This is my response to the post passing demigod worship, of a talented man, in another thread:

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Originally posted by Rann That would be true if you were re-writing history through rose tinted glasses. GUI's were invented by the military and were used on radar systems a good 20 years before Jobs even started apple. The Xerox brought it to personal computers. In fact they brought out three computers that all had GUI's, using icons/menus and a mouse. Jobs hired several people from Xerox and had they any sense they would have sued him for infringement on their proprietary designs. As I said, the ipod was just the next generation's walkman - anyone old enough to remember them knows exactly what i'm talking about. Mobile Phone? I give more props to Martin Cooper than I do apple. I had my first mobile phone in 1994, and motorola touchscreen smart phone in 2004, a good three years before the Iphone was even announced. This aside, think what the internet did to "reshape" human behavior. And the combustion or steam engine. Or the storing of electricity in batteries. Or penecillin. Or the insulin pen. Or the printing press. My point? Jobs was great at taking other's technology, slightly refining it but more importantly, marketing the fuck out of it to mass consumer markets. Moreso than anything I think jobs was a marketing pioneer - he, along with the marketing execs at apple, created a devout following of people who will buy their products no matter what, even if it was worse than offerings by the competition. There aren't really any other companies that can claim this, and certainly not on the scale that Apple can. Apple is a "how to" in terms of a branding excercise, and they knew how to make existing ideas/products appeal to people. Point in case; the Ipad. 10 years when tablets were launched, you couldn't give them away for free. The ipad does nothing that tablets couldn't do then (in fact they did more like have USB and replaceable parts). All I'm saying is, the moment you have to go in to detail to explain what someone's contribution is, it fades away against true, life changing invention. I'm actually sad to see someone that talented go, but let's be honest. He made products for profit. Stop being a sucker - He didn't make anyone's "life better", well maybe apart from charitable donations and employing a lot of people in China.

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Originally posted by Dj_Kile Now figure out by your self where do Steve jobs fit in this

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Excellent post on Gawker - granted, they had beef once upon a time but it's eloquently describes what I've seen happening recently.

Steve Jobs Was Not God

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Real outpourings of public grief should be reserved for those people who lived life so heroically and selflessly that they stand as shining examples of love for all of humanity. People like, for example, the Rev. Fred Shuttlesworth, who—along with his family—was bombed, beaten, and stabbed during his years of principled activism in the US civil rights movement. Shuttlesworth died yesterday, the same day as Steve Jobs. He did not die a billionaire. Death, of course, is not a competition. All deaths are sad for the living. Everyone deserves to be mourned, and well-known people will inevitably be mourned more loudly than others. But it is actually important to keep our grief in perspective. When we start mourning technocrats as idols, we cheapen the lives of those who have sacrificed more for their fellow man. Steve Jobs was great at what he did. There's no need to further fellate the man's memory. He made good computers, he made good phones, he made good music players. He sold them well. He got obscenely rich. He enabled an entire generation of techie design fetishists to walk around with more attractive gadgets. He did not meaningfully reduce poverty, or make life-saving scientific discoveries, or end wars or heal the sick or befriend the friendless. Which is fine—most of us don't. But most of us don't provoke such cult-like lachrymosity when we pass on. When even the journalists tasked with covering you and your company are reduced to pie-eyed fans apologizing for discomforting your insanely powerful multibillion-dollar corporation in some minor way, some perspective has been lost.