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Looney4Clooney
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you are applying bus compression. Of course automation will not work in this instance. I said if you can automate , it is always the better choice. Automation is applied to single audio tracks. You might compress some parts, while using automation for others. The point is that good engineers don't blindly slap a compressor on things. They know why it is on , they know what parts they want compressed and they don't use it if it isn't needed.

Now do yourself a little favour and lower the compressed version so it is at unity with the original. Does not really sound that good. Both versions suck.

and if one had the patience, you could do that with automation. A compressor is a volume knob. All those awful pumping sounds can be done via automation albeit with more control. If you need to slap a compressor on your master out to make it sound good, you don't know how to mix.

i;m not against compressors. I just think A, people have no idea what they do and how they work. B, tend to be an automatic response instead of actually listening and figuring out what needs work and attacking the problem. And that is what makes a good engineer.

One of the best tools to come about is Waves vocal rider. You can use it on anything and it is just like riding a fader but you've taken a 4 hits of speed and you have the reflexes of a ninja,


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Psynon
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The question of thread title should be asked from Benny Benassi.

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Morvan
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I have to agree with Looney4Clooney, in this day and age slapping a Compressor throughout the entire track seems so uncontrolled. Automation is the way to go.

Of course you can do what you want and in the end you can get decent results no matter the approach, but the most control and thus flexibility is through automation.

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mysticalninja
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A compressor may be a volume knob but you do not have the capability of riding the fader to mimic the result of a nice hard compression with fast atk/rls no matter how many hits of speed you've had. rock vocals are heavily compressed.

I don't always mix running into a limiter, some people do, that is one technique. I usually don't, just giving an example. I saw deadmau5 do a before and after with a hardware limiter on his livestream so i wanted to try it. I don't hate either or say they're wrong.


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Morvan
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It would however solve the problem of changing timbres and their enormous loudness differences you mentioned such as screaming and then soft singing. I'd prefer automation to fill the gap before compressing anything. The Compression then can tighten the rest without having to be as hard as without the automation.

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mysticalninja
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Either one will work, but compression will bring up that delicious background noise, room reverb etc. i like hearing the pumping in between breaths etc.


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skyhunter
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quote:
Originally posted by Psynon
The question of thread title should be asked from Benny Benassi.


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i usually send my kick and bass to a compressor, and i found that with ny compression you get a nice balance with dynamics.

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skyhunter
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quote:
Originally posted by mysticalninja
i need to use ny compression more.. i keep hearing good producers talk about it.

and yeah ask benassi if its okay to squash your bassline xD
i love that sound personally i made benassi/moombahton-esqe bassline the other week..

http://www.mediafire.com/?iec3nxy5mrsxnmo
fun starts at 2:45


psh call that bass? go search skrillex LOLOLOLO MELT MY FACE OFF


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So moral of the story if you want loud sounds use compression.


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Morvan
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quote:
Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox
So moral of the story if you want loud sounds use distortion.

fixed

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skyhunter
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quote:
Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox
So moral of the story if you want loud sounds use compression.


Sometimes.


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