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Originally posted by EddieZilker The importance of which you seem to be over-stating. You may as well be lamenting about how Volvo sold out for their latest product placement and cross-promotional contest relating to the new Twilight film. Taste-makers? I just don't recall any genre dying out from editorial neglect or abuse, for that matter.

Tend to disagree. The importance that djs place on the top 100 and subsequent Dj fees reflect that.

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Originally posted by RebeL9 I'm not sure he ever had that much of credibility in the underground scene. He catered to the mainstream audience from the very beginning starting with Encore un fois, Ecuador, Stay and co-working with other mainstream artists such as Dr Alban and Tina Cousins (hot ass).

Hey, man, he was on the very first Ravemaster compilation. Them's some respectable names on there!

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Then again, a year later, he appeared on this:

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I'm actually happy that trance may be sulking back into the underground. Let's face it, today's house to edm is what today's hip hop was to run dmc or public enemy.

I'm actually focusing my attention on more hungry acts/true to their roots. Eco, JooF, MIKE, airbase, temple 1, jaytech come to mind. Enough with da Jesus pose possee already.

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Originally posted by aNYthing I'm actually happy that trance may be sulking back into the underground. Let's face it, today's house to edm is what today's hip hop was to run dmc or public enemy. I'm actually focusing my attention on more hungry acts/true to their roots. Eco, JooF, MIKE, airbase, temple 1, jaytech come to mind. Enough with da Jesus pose possee already.

Dont get me wrong, I would be delighted if trance returns to the underground and be recognised as such. Much of the trance scene is and always has been underground. DJ mag are meant to celebrate the underground, not deride it, unless its crap.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J He isn't over-stating it at all. He's simply being unrealistic.

What am I saying that is unrealistic?

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Originally posted by Lotherton Hall What am I saying that is unrealistic?

It's unrealistic to expect a publication like DJ Mag to have any integrity or credibility in this day and age, for the reasons I've already given. This kind of thing is annoying, but it's a lot like getting angry when politicians lie. By this point, you should expect nothing different. DJ Mag runs dance music's most notorious popularity contest, how can you seriously think they should "celebrate the underground"?

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J It's unrealistic to expect a publication like DJ Mag to have any integrity or credibility in this day and age, for the reasons I've already given. This kind of thing is annoying, but it's a lot like getting angry when politicians lie. By this point, you should expect nothing different. DJ Mag runs dance music's most notorious popularity contest, how can you seriously think they should "celebrate the underground"?

They have done a pretty good job at it historically with other edm genres.

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Originally posted by Lotherton Hall They have done a pretty good job at it historically with other edm genres.

That's an opinion which can be neither proved or disproved really, but I've never noticed DJMag having any serious impact on the underground dance music scene. And as already mentioned, 'historically' people didn't have access to the same/better content for free online.

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Originally posted by blackplanet That's an opinion which can be neither proved or disproved really, but I've never noticed DJMag having any serious impact on the underground dance music scene. And as already mentioned, 'historically' people didn't have access to the same/better content for free online.

Not sure how old you are (not seeking to undermine you, I'm 36 and been into the edm scene for over 20 years so my interest is pre internet) but that is just a ridiculous statement. The magazine has historically had a big impact, particularly with the 'Update' weekly.

Totally agree with you there is better content available online.

This isnt aimed speciafically at you but moreover at those on here who seem to think djmag is irrelevant or unrepresenteative of the edm scene:-

1. If djmag is irrelevant now, why do djs, their agents, bookers and managers wouldnt spend copious amounts of time begging for votes?

2. The mag has a huge impact on dj fees and entire careers.

3. The mag has some kind of witch hunt against the trance scene and I wonder why considering what it is meant to represent.

The internet has had a huge impact. However, we cant get away from the fact that the magazine is massively influencial, more so than any internet forum, even now, whether you like it or not. Just ask any dj, promoter or club owner with a genuine interest in the scene and making a living from it. Show me a dj that slags off the djmag poll and I will show you a dj who never made the top 100 or was in it and had an almighty fall from grace. From a punters perspective, I know where to look on the web to hear good music, reviews and id a club night I want to go to. The mag doesnt influence my choice although it has been informative in the early to mid years. I love trance music and cant stand the trouse and electro influenced 'trance' djs that appear to be so popular now. I just wonder why such an influencial mag takes such a stance against part of the scene they are meant to represent when the real trance music is there to be found. However, viewing the posts I'm a relatively lone voice.

If this is such an important issue for you, you can always write to the editor and ask.

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Originally posted by Lotherton Hall They have done a pretty good job at it historically with other edm genres.

Historically is not "in this day and age", is it?

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