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Originally posted by scorpradio See...what you guys are seeing when he "apologizes" is only one side and L4C knows this. Me, I know better and wont have it. An apology means you don't owe anybody anything. Saying "I am sorry" means you will do your best to not let it happen again the next time. It means you truly are wanting to be forgiven for an action or mistake. Again...L4C is smarter and wont compromise his narcissistic nature. Because the reality is, this isn't over. It will continue to happen just as it has in all other posts he has posted in. Mark my words.

Oh, my. Well, you've certainly crossed that threshold into internet forensic psychology. You know, I've taken issue with him, as well, but I've never felt compelled to pathologize him. Since you seem to know so much about pathological narcissism as it relates to L4C, how do Professor Higgins and Eliza Doolittle relate with narcissism?



Remember. I can not only answer this question but I can also cite at least two sources on the matter.

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You know, as I stated before. I leave posts that L4C replies to. Not because he does not know or has the know how, it is because of his demeanor and approach.
Personally, I could care less how much one knows or the ability they have. This is a community forum, and even though it is open to comment or opinion I believe Cryophonik said it best
"It was a fair question and I don't think that most people here could have answered it. Let's be honest, most electronica producers struggle with understanding musical concepts. They shouldn't be afraid to ask a simple question for fear of being lambasted by someone who has spent the better part of his life studying music"
See, my opinion on this matter was not one brought up overnight. I have been viewing the production forums for quite awhile now. I try to learn what I can,when I can. When one see's these kind of comments from him it makes things even more frustrating. No one needs to hear or see that crap.
And I challenge you...do the research yourself. Look at his posts. 90% of them are either demeaning, sarcastic to the point of annoyance or non constructive. This is supposed to be a community of information. How can you learn from b.s. like this? You cant.
See, not all of us have the ability in life to dedicate themselves to music. To some of us it is a hobby [with ambition] and wow it takes the fun away with childish snide comments like his.
I am just tired of it, that's all. And I can tell you this much, if he met me in RL, I GUARANTEE he wouldnt say these things to my face.
So why say it here? Because he can? yea, ok

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Originally posted by scorpradio You know, as I stated before. I leave posts that L4C replies to. Not because he does not know or has the know how, it is because of his demeanor and approach. Personally, I could care less how much one knows or the ability they have. This is a community forum, and even though it is open to comment or opinion I believe Cryophonik said it best "It was a fair question and I don't think that most people here could have answered it. Let's be honest, most electronica producers struggle with understanding musical concepts. They shouldn't be afraid to ask a simple question for fear of being lambasted by someone who has spent the better part of his life studying music" See, my opinion on this matter was not one brought up overnight. I have been viewing the production forums for quite awhile now. I try to learn what I can,when I can. When one see's these kind of comments from him it makes things even more frustrating. No one needs to hear or see that crap. And I challenge you...do the research yourself. Look at his posts. 90% of them are either demeaning, sarcastic to the point of annoyance or non constructive. This is supposed to be a community of information. How can you learn from b.s. like this? You cant. See, not all of us have the ability in life to dedicate themselves to music. To some of us it is a hobby [with ambition] and wow it takes the fun away with childish snide comments like his. I am just tired of it, that's all. And I can tell you this much, if he met me in RL, I GUARANTEE he wouldnt say these things to my face. So why say it here? Because he can? yea, ok

I never said cryophonik was wrong. I've known L4C for quite a while, have been on the business end of his flame-thrower as he has been on the business end of mine. I have no need to research anything. The fact is that I completely understand how you've made your deductions, including that loaded internet diagnosis you felt compelled to toss out. By their own ethical guidelines regarding therapeutic boundary issues, psychological clinicians are prohibited from making such diagnoses.

My issue with you is that you're invoking pathological narcissism as leverage in your "case" against L4C and that you're presenting your case in a way which is grotesquely manipulative. Off the top of my head, I can name five behaviors you've engaged in which are themselves, related to the symptoms of one or more personality disorders. Coming into a thread where you felt compelled to point out a pattern in L4C's behavior and claiming to refrain from posting here because of it is an example of one of those behaviors.

Very clearly, when you're speaking to pathological narcissism, you only have a superficial understanding of both disorder and the person (a second behavior) you have diagnosed with it. One of the reasons cryophonik is right is because he is taking issue with the behavior - not the person - which is the third behavior of yours that I would point to; if I were going to "diagnose" you on an internet forum. My earnest suggestion to you is that you have over-played your hand and need to beat a retreat to a less controversial position than your fourth behavior of splitting related to L4C's person. You have exhibited your fifth behavior by trying to influence our perception of L4C.

You don't know what you're talking about. You've demonstrated more fucked up in three posts than L4C could in ten or more. You have proven that you offer very little in the way of constructive content other than a dilettante familiarity with aberrant psychology presented as though you were an expert on such matters. When it was pointed out that you might be in over your head, you proceeded to indulge in more of the same behaviors which got you there, in the first place.



There is a proposition in your subtext, that you would replace L4C because his absence would allow you to post here and while I would love to extend a welcoming hand to any new member, I simply don't understand how you're legitimizing such an exchange when the gulf between what he has already offered and what you've shown yourself to be capable of could be described by the term, gaping.

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Originally posted by scorpradio And I can tell you this much, if he met me in RL, I GUARANTEE he wouldnt say these things to my face. So why say it here? Because he can? yea, ok

lol, yeah you've been keeping up.

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Originally posted by scorpradio ambition] and wow it takes the fun away with childish snide comments like his. I am just tired of it, that's all. And I can tell you this much, if he met me in RL, I GUARANTEE he wouldnt say these things to my face. So why say it here? Because he can? yea, ok

I do. And as funny as it is here , it is even funnier in real life. What you see is what you get, I think that in real life, my contact with idiots is just lower. It disapoints me that you do not give my any credit for the lively fun manner in which I go about taunting people/

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Last edited by Looney4Clooney on Nov-10-2011 at 22:34

this is an odd little corner of the internet, nobody here seems to be comfortable with shock humor. maybe it's the average age, I dunno. there's one forum I go to that has a black moderator and several people make racist comments towards him, like really offensive stuff, just to get a reaction. and they do, but it's never a rant about how stuff like that is ruining the forum and they're abominations for stooping to such a low level.

ah well. I think it's funny at least.

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Originally posted by DJ Roco the producer starts off in a nice tribal triplet time format, and if you listen enough into it (about 2.5 minutes), you will notice that he has a slow transition into duplet time with straight quarter notes. How is this done?

Simplest explanation... with this: http://www.vst4free.com/free_vst.ph..._Morpher&id=860

that is actually pretty cool. Wouldn't call it an explanation more so than a solution. Now allow midi file drop and drag , make it AU and you have a product. And orange is so pre November.

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