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Raphie
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Registered: Jun 2008
Location: Lelystad, Netherlands

so 2 things:

I like the IDEA of the psychedelic delays, however either use a single delay and DON'T sync it, to get that raggamuffin dub type delay, or put delay on multiple elements, but sync it (i.e. 4th dotted)

Now it's too much and too messy, Less will definately be more.
A good candidate for the non synced dub delay will be the sitar type sound @ 2.40 let that dub out at the end of 8 or 16 measures.
try to get the drums more tight, really get that tight D&B / Jungle type bounce. and let everything around it flow more.

That's what i'm hearing


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EddieZilker
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Registered: Jan 2009
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Thanks, guys.


What's a 'reece' bass line?


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Sensuerea
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It's a detuned saw bassline with heavy filter automation. Heavy processing and said automation creates a very lively, 'moving' bassline.
Search reece/reese on youtube.


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EddieZilker
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Originally posted by Sensuerea
It's a detuned saw bassline with heavy filter automation. Heavy processing and said automation creates a very lively, 'moving' bassline.
Search reece/reese on youtube.


I googled it. It's the sort of cliche' I was actually trying to avoid with this song. I genuinely can't stand to listen to music made with it and it has a way of homogenizing every song it's used with. I've never really understood the attraction of it, to begin with. For whatever it's worth.


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Location: Seattle, USA

Not my typical cup of tea but for some reason I find this "unconventional, out of melodic sync" format you are using in this track attractive in some form - is different and unique then today standard EDM lol - never too much of originality Eddie, cool little project my friend !!!

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EddieZilker
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Thanks, man! Glad you like it.


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sako487
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ok im listening to the after feedback one

the low and seems kinda messy, def the pluck interfering with the low end of the kick, might want to sidechain/eq that just a bit

that wide clap really fits my style and i love the creepy delay shakers youve got, give me more of those

dont really know what to say to this, on one hand it seems a little "messy" mixing wise but the hats and everything else comes through clear, sounds kindof chillout industrial dub to me with some indian influences?

sounds like you need to clear up some of your lowend, try lowpassing everything thats not the bass or kick and start letting some low frequencies in one by one.

really spacious shit right here mate


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EddieZilker
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quote:
Originally posted by sako487
ok im listening to the after feedback one

the low and seems kinda messy, def the pluck interfering with the low end of the kick, might want to sidechain/eq that just a bit

that wide clap really fits my style and i love the creepy delay shakers youve got, give me more of those

dont really know what to say to this, on one hand it seems a little "messy" mixing wise but the hats and everything else comes through clear, sounds kindof chillout industrial dub to me with some indian influences?

sounds like you need to clear up some of your lowend, try lowpassing everything thats not the bass or kick and start letting some low frequencies in one by one.

really spacious shit right here mate


That's not low-end mud you're hearing. That's OCTANE. You know this tune is going to be massive. I'm getting it released on Beatport and Armin and Guetta are having a massive spat over who gets to play it out, first!


EDIT: Honestly. Thanks for the feedback. I've got a brand new monitoring situation and am still doing a bit of tuning. While I'm actually happier with this mix and kind of like its lows, I'm not above taking your feedback into account - especially on future projects.


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TranceElevation
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First of all let me tell you...this piece has HUGE POTENTIAL.

Sounds so much better than the previous one.

At this point many comments are more personal preference than other. You cought that and didn't pay attention to some comments above.

But if there is anything you could do to develope the potential I mentionet above, it is definitely structure and arrangement (nothing wrong with it so far), but I'd like to suggest some things that imo could greatly improve/enhance/develope this piece.

For example (from my analyses) the core, the heart, the driving force and most focal point of this track is the bassline.

But the problem here is that you give it right away. You throw in immediately the best part of the piece and this could translate into boredom later on.

So my suggestion here is to start maybe with some high-pass to the bassline and drive it so some sort of a drop (nothing glamour or big ala uplifting) just a little bit...even subtle if you wish (but it has to be perceivable of course). And this is valid for the kick as well.

(little bit of distorsion to the bassline will be orgasmic).

The track has energy, it just could be accentuated more by such variations.

Regarding the kick, I'd prefer it more centered and punchy (cut more lows from it and with the attack/release of the compressor adjust snap). Raphie spoke about it previously.
It will improve drive and make the bassline shine even more.

I see improvement for dynamics, but not to the extent I hoped.
For example, that sound at 0:12...it starts and I like how it moves towards the left immediately, but the feedback remains there. I'd prefer it decaying versus the center in constant motion...

In general, what I mean is...automate pan, reverb dry/wet, delay dry/wet, feedback etc...depth could be greatly imrpoved. I'd like to hear more motion. Hats as well, make them jump left/right...
Establish a metodical work for automations. Treat them on predetermined blocks if you wish.


This is it from me.

Huge improvment. I like this track.

edit: Forgot to mention! The clap......make it start slightly before the kick. Sounds too perfect in time.

edit 2: Pre-verb as well. Use it to make this piece sound demonic.

Last edited by TranceElevation on Mar-30-2012 at 04:27

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EddieZilker
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quote:
Originally posted by TranceElevation
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Huge thanks, man. Awesome feedback and I really love the ideas. Honestly, a lot of your feedback was something I tried to implement with the first round, so I'm happy with the progress, so far, considering this reply. If/when I come back to this, I'll be reviewing your posts, first. Not to mention the fact that there's a lot of things to keep in mind when making some future songs. Very much appreciated.


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