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LightsOut
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Registered: Jan 2007
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quote:
Originally posted by Nicolas Oliver
Hey, let's make a bunch of jokes about death and destruction! The tragedies are happening in a far off land so let's poke fun!

Seriously...


Hey, let's jump on the Kony bandwagon! These tragedies have been happening for 20+ years and nobody gave a shit until 6pm on Monday. But some hipster with an NPO and more money than brains decides to throw 200K into a video and suddenly its the most important cause in the world. But, only until the next socially conscious movement goes viral, then nobody will give a shit again.

Not saying whats been happening in Uganda isn't atrocious, because it obviously is, and has been for decades. It's just slightly retarded that it takes a well produced viral video and sleek campaign for people to care about things like this. I bet 80% of these people posting this Kony 2012 stuff everywhere couldn't pick Uganda out on a map. That's why we poke fun.


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Mach X
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quote:
Originally posted by spitty


See, this is what is SUPPOSED to happen. But what percentage of people who "liked" or "shared" or posted a status about Kony2012 on your FB and Twitter actually went and learned about what they were posting about after doing their social media duty?

And then how many of them do you think just did it because they didn't want to seem like they don't care to their friends or followers, and did so only to appear like they really give a shit about the root cause?

Support causes, but don't support blindly...

Don't participate in slacktivism...

If it took this campaign for you to take some time away from whatever else occupies your time usually be it looking at funny cat pis on reddit, watching Jersey Shore, playing COD etc for you to actually read up on the issue and history of Kony and his actions, then good, GREAT even. You're more educated and aware now and can hopefully make efforts in your life to help the unfortunate in other places in the world or even in your own backyard. Good for you...

If you clicked share and posted a generic status and went back to the internet, video games and TV... FUCK YOU.

Simple really...


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The LRA today (early 2011)
There are many similarities between the LRA of the past (pre-December 2008) and that of the present. Kony exerts a powerful personal influence over his troops. The LRA remains a movement largely dominated by people from northern Uganda, and LRA commanders continue to tell their fighters that they will soon return to Uganda where
everyone will be rewarded with posts in the Ugandan government or army. Despite these commonalities, much has changed within the LRA in the past 22 months. Kony no longer has complete and direct command-and-control over each LRA group.

As fighters from northern Uganda defect or are killed and are replaced by foreign fighters, the Ugandans are decreasing in number relative to Congolese, Central African, and Sudanese fighters.
It is fear rather than ideology that keeps Ugandan and foreign fighters in the LRA today. The LRA’s rank-and-file fear being killed by their commanders if caught trying to escape or fear of being killed by the national armies or relatives of people they killed, once they return home.
Crucially, the number of fighters in the LRA is dwindling. About 400 fighters remain operational today, less than half of the number in action of two years ago. While the ranks of foreign fighters have been replenished, the Ugandan fighters are at an all-time low. There has been a slow but steady defection of Ugandans since December 2008.

Were this rate to remain constant for the next 12 months, there would hardly be any Ugandan fighters left in the LRA.
Despite being weakened, the LRA’s propensity for violence remains undiminished. The LRA has become efficient at creating mass havoc with very few fighters, which is not surprising given their propensity to target unarmed civilians. What keeps Kony and other
commanders going is the possibility of renewed external support, particularly from their former backers in Khartoum. Without Sudanese support, there are few options left for Kony, who has seen his organization reach its weakest point in the last 15 years. But by
securing new support from Sudan, as happened in 1994 and 2002, the LRA could pose a significant threat across the region, particularly in South Sudan.

Numbers and composition
Based on Enough interviews with former LRA fighters, there are about 400 LRA fighters operating in three countries. This number does not include women, children, and abductees who are used solely to carry food and other looted materials. Close to 250 fighters are Ugandans, the other 150 being from Sudan, Congo, and CAR. The Ugandan army claims that from December 14, 2008 through August 2010, the UPDF killed 397 LRA fighters and captured 63, with another 123 defections. The UPDF has not specified the nationality of fighters killed or the exact number of fighters remaining in the LRA.

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I'd also like to say, that there are an estimated 20-25 (mid 2011 stats) armed attacks each month because of this conflict, but much has spread into Sudan and the Congo. Almost are LRA attacks. Although the UPDF are not innocent, most of their bad behaviour accorded pre-2001 (which is the cutoff date for ICC involvement). Since Museveni asked for the ICC to come into Uganda and investigate (don't get me started on both Museveni and the ICCs motives behind that) the UPDF has mostly stayed out of anything that could have them charged under the Rome Statute.

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quote:
Originally posted by Mach X
See, this is what is SUPPOSED to happen. But what percentage of people who "liked" or "shared" or posted a status about Kony2012 on your FB and Twitter actually went and learned about what they were posting about after doing their social media duty?

And then how many of them do you think just did it because they didn't want to seem like they don't care to their friends or followers, and did so only to appear like they really give a shit about the root cause?

Support causes, but don't support blindly...

Don't participate in slacktivism...

If it took this campaign for you to take some time away from whatever else occupies your time usually be it looking at funny cat pis on reddit, watching Jersey Shore, playing COD etc for you to actually read up on the issue and history of Kony and his actions, then good, GREAT even. You're more educated and aware now and can hopefully make efforts in your life to help the unfortunate in other places in the world or even in your own backyard. Good for you...

If you clicked share and posted a generic status and went back to the internet, video games and TV... FUCK YOU.

Simple really...


I agree with you...but then why not contribute to the education? If you actually feel that strongly about people making rash judgments, then be part of the change instead of posting shithead internet pictures

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quote:
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Why not contribute to the education? If you actually feel strongly about people making rash judgments, then be part of the change instead of posting shithead internet pictures

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quote:
Originally posted by Nicolas Oliver


what you're trying to say is "+1".

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quote:
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what you're trying to say is "+1".


I only read this thread for the jokes and you're helping


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Kobe 2012!!!
Get informed you ignorant motherfuckas!!!!!!

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We have the twin nigtmares of Huxley and Welles apparent in this disaster.

Huxley thought we would be paralyzed by pleasure and distraction. (Click 'like'/retweet/buy the bracelet to support the cause.)

Welles feared we would be controlled by pain and oppression. Such is the life of those in Central Africa bedeviled by corrupt governments and quasi-theocratic rebels.

My English Lit. degree has served me well.


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Mach X
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quote:
Originally posted by spitty
I agree with you...but then why not contribute to the education? If you actually feel that strongly about people making rash judgments, then be part of the change instead of posting shithead internet pictures


I have, just not in this thread. I've posted articles, blogs, information on my FB and in comments in response to other posts on twitter and FB.

Figured we TA were a different group that didn't need to be spoonfed it.

But regardless, the information u posted is thorough and there now.


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