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Tom_cowan
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Registered: Apr 2002
Location: York, UK

Well to each his own i gues, i still dont like it when beats cancell each other out and i do understand why they do which is why i started cutting the bass. If i played house i would let the bass destructively interfer, as it is more important to produce a smooth mix but i play hard trance and with those hard kicks and deep bass sounds in my opinion it sounds awful when both bass sounds are in. My favourite part of doing a mix is now switching between the bass so it sounds smooth or like its meant to be there. The best way to do this is switch em after a build up but there are lots of tricks to make it smoother. For example in a build up start pulling the low out of the tune your mixing out of so by the time its about to kick in youv cut the bass, then bang the bass of the other tune in at the kick in. This also works at the end of 32 or 64 beats but it works better thick in a build up. If there aint a build up you can use a delay effect set at 1/8th which can supply a bit of a build up by creating a skipping effect. I do that on a pioneer djm500 but its a simple effect so ne descent effects mixer should be able to do it.


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fieroavian
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Registered: Jun 2002
Location: Netherworld

mix it live on decks (one take, no retries), then normalize the sound level only if necessary. which mix CD released nowadays was mixed live?! and why can't DJs take up the challenge of mixing it live, if they can do it in clubs?

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Originally posted by ampburner
But I hate it when CD's are mixed with vinyl and you can notice the DJ's poor mixing skills (if they are very obvious) Example: ISOS 3


what errors did you notice on ISOS 3? the mixing sounds flawless to me.

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Xavier
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Registered: Jan 2001
Location: Sydney, Australia

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Originally posted by hey cheggy
I prefer to hear it done on decks. I love hearing those fat beats start cancelling eachother out, lets me know someone with some real skillz has done the work, and not some geek with a mouse and a bunch of mp3's. I hate cd's that have been "fixed up".

I remember listening to one of the Aus' MOS Hard NRG cds and one of the songs had the entire middle section cut out, as though nobody would notice. Well i noticed, and i have no respect for anything released by MOS anymore


I was wonderin how the hell do mixes on cd compilations fit 18 or more tracks?

I was tryin to do this, and i'd probably have to be God to do it.

I found that:

- 18 track (or more) cd mixes are mix by using a computer program.
- 14 track (or less) cd mixes are done with turntables.


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DJ Dowlz
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Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Adelaide, Australia

quote:
Originally posted by hey cheggy
I prefer to hear it done on decks. I love hearing those fat beats start cancelling eachother out, lets me know someone with some real skillz has done the work, and not some geek with a mouse and a bunch of mp3's. I hate cd's that have been "fixed up".


Me too! But it's the only way they can fit 18 songs into one album. Another prime example of MOS's editing is Trance Nation 4 - CD2 - Track 17 - Orion - Eternity (Darren Tate mix). So much for the three minute breakdown!!!


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eran
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Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Israel

quote:
Originally posted by Xavier


- 18 track (or more) cd mixes are mix by using a computer program.


You should check Essential Underground - Vol 4, CD2 - Mixed by Marco Bailey.

30 tracks, and I dont think he used any computer program since it doesnt sound _that_ perfect, though its still awesome.

But then again, Marco Bailey is a very skilled DJ and producer

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fieroavian
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quote:
Originally posted by Xavier
- 18 track (or more) cd mixes are mix by using a computer program.
- 14 track (or less) cd mixes are done with turntables.


that may be true (though not always) for trance/progressive mixes, but FYI, Coldcut has mixed 35 songs in Journeys By DJ: 70 Minutes of Madness. songs last anywhere from over 5 minutes to 40 seconds. definitely not trance, but they jumped from jungle to techno to hip hop to ambient.

that said, number of songs contained doesn't really reflect the DJ's skills. Digger's GU019 has "only" 11 songs on each disc, and who's there to say John Digweed doesn't have madskillz?

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