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SYSTEM-J
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Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Manchester

The use of correct spelling, grammar and syntax is not "good writing". It's competent writing. It should really be the baseline for all written communication. Anyone who is incapable of at least getting the basics right in a job application should have no complaints if they appear ill-educated and incompetent.


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"Good writing" falls into many categories and can be highly subjective.

Creatively, yes, "good writing" involves more than the formalities a resume, cover letter, etc. would have.

In this context, though, I'd say "good writing" is the ability to produce one of those without having the aforementioned errors in them.

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Halcyon+On+On
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quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
should have no complaints if they appear ill-educated and incompetent.


Yes, but what do they have left if you take complaining away from them?


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Lira
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It depends on the job, naturally. But, with few exceptions, no.


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SYSTEM-J
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Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Manchester

quote:
Originally posted by OrangestO
"Good writing" falls into many categories and can be highly subjective.

Creatively, yes, "good writing" involves more than the formalities a resume, cover letter, etc. would have.

In this context, though, I'd say "good writing" is the ability to produce one of those without having the aforementioned errors in them.


For me, "good writing" carries implication that getting the basics right is some sort of achievement.


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Yes, it would be dealbreaker, because it would affect their communication skills. I think one would have to distinguish between poor grammar and a typo. Even if it is a 'factory' job (i'm not sure if your implying low-skilled, because many factory jobs are high-skilled jobs these days) , it would still matter. Add to this, poor mathematical skills and you have a disaster waiting to happen. Imagine you have a $300,000 machine, would you trust anyone to maintain it, much less run it?


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Moral Hazard
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Re: Re: Re: Re: should your ability to write well be the deciding factor in getting a job?

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Originally posted by ziptnf
You forgot a closing parenthesis.

Also, you shouldn't have put a period inside the quotations. That should have gone outside the closing parenthesis that wasn't there.

Edit: And what is the purpose of the semi-colon after "In addition"? In addition can't be its own complete sentence.


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That's actually wrong.

"In addition," which is a conjunctive adverb, cannot be its own complete sentence.

You use a comma afterward, unless following it up with "to" as in "In addition to...,"

EDIT: I read that as "can" instead of "can't," for some reason. Carry on.

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Intellekshual
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Re: should your ability to write well be the deciding factor in getting a job?

Spelling correctly and constructing clear, readable, understandable sentences should be a basic skill. Especially if you're presenting your resume to prospective employers. Make a fucking effort.

quote:
Originally posted by OrangestO
When you read other people's posts on here, do you take how well they write into consideration in deciding whether to take them seriously?

With a few exceptions (I'm looking at you, Craig) Yes. Especially if English is their first language. There is really no excuse for poor grammar and spelling. By disregarding punctuation, capitalization, and basic rules (i.e. mixing up "their", "they're", and "there", or "then", "than", etc.. which nobody should still be doing after 5th grade), a person willingly labels him or herself as a lazy, incompetent turd, which shows complete lack of respect for their audience and the language, so I tend to think less of them.


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srussell0018
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Re: Re: should your ability to write well be the deciding factor in getting a job?

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Originally posted by Intellekshual

With a few exceptions (I'm looking at you, Craig) Yes. Especially if English is their first language. There is really no excuse for poor grammar and spelling. By disregarding punctuation, capitalization, and basic rules (i.e. mixing up "their", "they're", and "there", or "then", "than", etc.. which nobody should still be doing after 5th grade), a person willingly labels him or herself as a lazy, incompetent turd, which shows complete lack of respect for their audience and the language, so I tend to think less of them.


First sentence should have read "With a few exceptions, (I'm looking at you, Craig), yes.


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Re: Re: Re: should your ability to write well be the deciding factor in getting a job?

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Originally posted by srussell0018
First sentence should have read "With a few exceptions, (I'm looking at you, Craig), yes.


With a few exceptions, - I'm looking at you, Craig - yes.

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