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lMIlk
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Registered: Aug 2001
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we will never forget 9/11

Old Post Sep-10-2002 00:05  United States
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Flec
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Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Toronto,Canada

for this exact reason i choose not to particitpate often ( if it all) in any forums accept for the local forum, and you know what? im almost done with posting there why? this community fucking blows, were all haters, weather its hating another country or another style of trance/or music even. we get to the extreme point where we get angry when we disagree of what someone else likes

you all need to lighten up this is music not life or death

yes i know i strayed from the tiesto14 situation but i dont give a shit really i had to let that out

Old Post Sep-10-2002 00:13  Canada
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quddha
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Registered: Aug 2001
Location: Toronto, Ontario

I don't think there's that much "america bashing" going around. There is plenty criticizm regarding the Bush Administration, elected with by a small majority of the population, and there is the odd stupid stereotypical comment that gets blurted out every now and then. But the large majority of the posts are nothing personal, and its usually very clear that its not the American people that are being attacked, but their leaders. Some of you people are just a little too sensitive to any criticism regarding your country. I agree that the actions of the US president are being examined under a microscope, but I think it is justified, considering how he probably holds the most powerful position in the world right now, and his decisions not only affect you, and people in the middle east, but it will also dictate our future as a global community. So don't think people are just criticizing the US actions just for the sake of bashing, rather, we are trying to intelligently discuss global politics because the issues are very real, and very serious.

I must admit, I've learend SO much regarding international politics, on both sides of the argument. These threads are very worthwhile and good reading material in my opinion. Sure there are some assholes who step in with their idiotic statements, but generally, I think these threads are jampacked with very interesting articles and information. As long as the posters don't take it too personally, and start arguing through pure emotion.

If I recall correctly, Tiesto14 was the one who brought up the whole "my country is better than yours" attitude, with his ignorant stereotypes, and moronic statements like "Stop talking about America, Look at your country, what have you ever done? all you have is hockey and beer," undermining the lives of the brave men and women of our country, who lost their lives for the cause he supports himself.

He was always first to resort to personal attacks, eg "OMFG! YOU MUST BE SOOO FUCKING STOOOOOPID!!!!" whenever anyone disagreed with his views. It was only natural that he would flamed with moronic comments like that.

In summary, I don't think anyone has started a thread saying Americans are bad. I just think some of the American users are just over-sensitive about the view of the United States on the International Stage. But I think these topics are relevant, considering the consequences that will be thrust against us as a global community in the coming months. So if you can't stand up and post in this international forum, then fine, go hide in your regional section, where you won't have to face the scorn of the international community. Just like Bush dodging the UN conferences. Just don't be ignorant enough to think we're doing it for the sake of putting down the States. Because, for your information, what Bush does doesn't just affect you, it affects the whole world. You may not be concerned, but we are.


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Old Post Sep-10-2002 01:09  Canada
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fly and fast please behave.

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or you will be spanked


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Old Post Sep-10-2002 01:16  England
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DRM
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Registered: Mar 2001
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Well tbh for a start there isnt just American bashing and stereotyping that goes around on this forum. I've seen many country's citizens and ideals abused by others on here and it often goes un-noticed but American being such a figure head and powerful nation seems to get the brunt of it. But as Neo said on a Mutlinational and Multicultural forum this is to be expected so people should really is have some sense to keep any controversal topics and thoughs to themselves. I, Personally have been sick with all the recent topics in here about Bush, his tactics, 9/11 etc. Yes September 11th was an atrocity but even here in the UK for the past week if not more there has been a shit load of documentaries and the like on it, on top of the whole Iraq business and it really gets me down to see the media making money off of things like this.

So basically wot im sayin is that Tiesto14 should have handled the abuse a lot better as we all have to put up with things like this in life and its all a lesson of control


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sothis
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Registered: Aug 2001
Location: seattle, washington

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He was always first to resort to personal attacks, eg "OMFG! YOU MUST BE SOOO FUCKING STOOOOOPID!!!!" whenever anyone disagreed with his views. It was only natural that he would flamed with moronic comments like that.


and in return, if you like, i can go back and find the times people would say things like "you are proving yourself to be a typical ignorant arrogant american", or such statements.

perhaps a lot of the discussion that goes on in these threads is civil, but you are blind to think that generalization of the AMERICAN PEOPLE does not happen as well. like i said, i could go find examples if you really want.

you insinuate that i am over sensitive.. yet i think you might feel a bit differently if you constantly were portrayed to be a bad person under blanket statements about your country or your country's people.

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sothis
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Registered: Aug 2001
Location: seattle, washington

oh, and:

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So if you can't stand up and post in this international forum, then fine, go hide in your regional section, where you won't have to face the scorn of the international community


the regional forum i spoke of, was the western canada forum... which would be considered international.

luckily all my ta friends in vancouver dont think any less of me for being american... so you are damn sure that i would want to keep posting in there.

Old Post Sep-10-2002 01:36  United States
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Ray_Finkle
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Hamilton, Canada

hey flec, let's just stay in nmp3s alright?


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Taub
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Registered: Apr 2001
Location: nyc

I just got to say you guys take this fourm too seriously...there are other things in life

Old Post Sep-10-2002 02:10  India
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arturob
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I just got to say you guys take this fourm too seriously...there are other things in life


like buying BxR / Vandit vinyls :P


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Old Post Sep-10-2002 02:36  Italy
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Tranz
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I find it funny that the "Chillout Room" is the total opposite of it's name. Maybe if you started a FLAME OUT Room, where anything goes, you would clean up the other rooms. It would be funny to see everyone saying what they really want to say, besides me atleast.


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Essential1
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Registered: Aug 2001
Location: Brampton

Everyone is entitled to thier own opinion. an opinion is never right or wrong, it's just what someone thinks. But in some cases opinions shouldn't be advertised. If you don't like a certain group of people, don't advertise it because it will somehome get back to you in a bad way. It's like walking into a black neighborhood wearing a sign that says "I hate ******s", SOMEONE's going to get pissed off and kick the shit out of you.


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