Meh, did you see me acting all butthurt until you decided to explain the most obvious shit to me? I dedicated a full 1 sentence in one of my post to sarcastically thank enydo and lews. I don't often see you post this garbage in MD so I actually had to check if I had posted it the right forum. Please continue to tell me I'm an idiot. Repeating what I write in your own words sure makes me look stoopid

The amount of shitposting on this forum is astounding.

edit: and keep telling yourself what you really meant by your posts was what Sykonee wrote, it all makes sense if you really think into it.

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Last edited by Redd on Nov-19-2012 at 14:16

What? Hold on, I never said you were an idiot... why would I even say that?

And why on Earth would I want to make you look stupid?! No wonder it's been a while since I last posted here, is everything supposed to be an attack in this place?

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God damn you two, now I feel like I need to write a serious reply explaining my post.

I wasn't making fun of the question; I actually do think it's a good one and contract law and the music industry and economics and all that shit that is tied up in it is actually extremely interesting. I'm just getting sick of the fact that every time old trance comes up or modern trance comes up or just the word trance comes up, we get the same posts talking about how great it was back then, how it was "all about the music" and how shit the scene is now, how it is "all about the money". I love old trance as much as anyone on this forum, probably more than most, let's be honest, but the same replies to every god damn thread is just fucking old.

I didn't write a serious response because: 1) Trance-MB had already explained it (giving an accurate answer for maybe the first time in his posting career); and 2) I didn't have time to write a more detailed explanation of it and figured someone else would (which Jack thankfully did).

Also, South Park is great. Or at least was. I haven't watched it in a while, now.

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Originally posted by Lews I wasn't making fun of the question (...) I didn't write a serious response

Just to make my post clear (in case it wasn't), that's all I said you did.

I'm surprised because I was hardly offensive, and only made fun of Redd's reaction when he took me way too seriously - and even then I tried not to keep it personal. You know what this place needs?! Love! Here's a group hug I'm sure we can all appreciate!

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Breasts. I mean, yes.

I just wanted to explain the rationale behind WHY I didn't make a serious post, since Redd complained about it.

Also, breasts.

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breasts

Annnnnd Lira saves the thread.

GUYS, can we get back to discussing OLDSCHOOL TRANCE for the 5 billionth fucking time? I feel we haven't discussed this enough.

Trance fans have to be one of the most lamentable groups of music listeners out there.

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney naw, the 50 year old rock guy working at guitar centre wondering why bands don't make proper rock. Now that is dedication.

Jazz and blues, guy. Jazz and blues.

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Originally posted by enydo GUYS, can we get back to discussing OLDSCHOOL TRANCE for the 5 billionth fucking time? I feel we haven't discussed this enough.

Oh, right, oldschool trance!

No single post could tell you everything that happen because electronic music underwent some massive shifts in our lifetime.

• It's easier/cheaper to make music now: Purchase a couple of vst's, a host, and even a 14 year old can make music nowadays (I mean, I could also make music 16 years ago when I was myself a 14 year old kid, but it was hardly anything comparable to what my favourite producers were doing). This in turn led to the following problem...
  There are more producers, so the competition for good label deals are fiercer (for the good labels, that is, which are able to promote your work with some competence), and recognisable names probably have some advantage, reason why it's probably wise to stick to an alias;
  
• What System-J said: In this sense, your name (and performing live) is more important than being loyal to a label. Case in point: When Ferry Corsten came to Brasilia, he attracted a good crowd... which probably wouldn't have happened if DJ Sno-White came here. In the producers forum you can still find advice by old school producers telling noobies not to use their real name, in order to avoid being tethered to a particular label;
  
• If, that is, people do have fewer aliases now: Someone with more time on his hands should look it up.

See, COR whores can also contribute when they feel like it, Redd. Having some fun by no means deteriorate the conversation

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Producers came up with different aliases primarily so they could sign different contracts with different record labels, allowing them to release more material and make more money. This was back when you actually made money from record sales and before web labels would pump out dozens of releases every month.

Also with just one label, that label decided if your track would be released or not, regardless if you thought it was a good track to release. Other labels might release your tracks, so in order to get it done you needed an alias due to the contract.
The one in my signature signed a contract to quick while being young and had to change his name in order to get anything released at all. Not even with the intention to earn a lot of money. If that was the intention he would have stopped producing years ago. Back then you needed a label to get publicity, as internet wasn't really available.

By the way, I think it was a good question Redd.

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