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barneypal
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Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Dublin, CA, US
The secret of EQ explained from observation

Here's some info on eq that is simple, but powerful once you understand it. I share it because if you really understand eq, it opens up the possibilities in sound for you greatly.

First, what happens when you increase the eq? Simply, you are increasing the volume around a specific frequency of sound.

So that leads to the question of what frequencies make up my sound. Think of a simple trance bass note, specifically the A tone. It is made of a fundamental frequency of 55Hz and a series of harmonic sounds octaves higher. The cool thing about octaves is there is a simple mathmatical relationship. Harmonics which are an octave higher are double the Frequency. So the A bass note probably is made up of a frequency at 55Hz, 110Hz, 220Hz, 440Hz, with the higher frequencies being softer than the fundamental.

So how does this apply to using EQ with your mixer. Well, first you need to understand the capabilities of your mixer. Become a tech-nerd and pull out the spec sheet of your mixer. I bet you never looked at that. You need to see which Frequency ranges the high, mid and low knobs emphasize.

For example, I have a DJM600, and the low emphasizes 70Hz, the mid at 1kHz and the high at 13kHz. Since bass is around 60Hz, if I turn up the 70Hz knob, all the sound around that range gets a little louder.

Now here is a key thing to rembmer. Remember how I said there is an octave relationship for different harmonics. Most trance melodies are only about 3 or 4 octaves above the bass line. So for example, the fundamental for the slide guitar in ATB's 9p.m. is 3 octaves above the bass, or around (55, 110, 220)... 440 Hz. So with my DJM600 mixer, even if I wanted to turn up the slide guitar much, I couldn't since my mids are located at 1000Hz. I might be able to get the harmonics 2 octaves above this sound, but not effect the main sound itself.

So as a simple example of how to apply this, suppose I had some song with high beep sounds with many harmonics around 1000Hz. I could turn my mids down so you could here the noise at 1000Hz of the song coming in (Usually some of the higher frequencies of the high hat sounds). A general rule in mixing is to not have too many sounds in 1 frequency range clashing.

Once you start thinking about this, it just opens up possibilities of exploring sound. So now its time to get creative!

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OBC
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Registered: May 2002
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Stage Presence...

Oakey doesn have the most...

Donald Glaude gets into his sets like a crazy man, and also... Carl Cox... anyone who's witnessed the big black cox on stage knows what I mean... Keoki is a pretty good show off with it too.

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TranceLuver4evr
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Registered: Jun 2001
Location: Everywhere!!!
Re: Stage Presence...

quote:
Originally posted by OBC
Oakey doesn have the most...

Donald Glaude gets into his sets like a crazy man, and also... Carl Cox... anyone who's witnessed the big black cox on stage knows what I mean... Keoki is a pretty good show off with it too.



True dat..........saw all the DJs u just mention. Donald Glaude is a freakin NRG house......I love it. Keoki........hmm.......that's only because he's on drugs while he is spinning

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TranceLuver4evr
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Registered: Jun 2001
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Back to the topic........

Johan Gielen be scratching like a mofo in his set now days...........it sounds like shit!!! You can't scratch with trance PERIOD

As VisionsofPVD said, pauses in a set sounds awesome IF u do it right. PVD's did this in his Rosenmontagsrave set and I love that shit!!

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trance_freak
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Registered: Jul 2001
Location: San Jose, CA

quote:

As VisionsofPVD said, pauses in a set sounds awesome IF u do it right. PVD's did this in his Rosenmontagsrave set and I love that shit!!


can you elaborate more on that?

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Greedy
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Registered: Apr 2002
Location: NoVA/DC

you gotta give keoki for having some stage presence. Hes only 5'2.


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OBC
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Registered: May 2002
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Shame / Disagreement can't scratch with trance...

quote:
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Back to the topic........

Johan Gielen be scratching like a mofo in his set now days...........it sounds like shit!!! You can't scratch with trance PERIOD


Well, honestly, thats a silly thing to say, and I'll prove it to you sometime. I have a nice lil recording of Thee-o scratching over trance, and if I can figure out how to post a lil bit of it, I'll let you hear it. Remember - there's nothing that can't be done.
Theres so many djs in the world, realilistically, theres going to be lots of things that you and I have never heard or seen done.

Take it easy

OBC

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Greedy
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Correct me if Im wrong, but ive never heard johan scratch to really trancey songs. Everytime Ive heard him scratch, it was to something like a beat, or HARD trance. It would be stupid to scratch over a really trancy song and Ive never heard him do that.
But since ppl pay to see him and hes making big $$$, i guess he can do whatever he wants.


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TranceLuver4evr
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Registered: Jun 2001
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quote:
Originally posted by Busy Child
Correct me if Im wrong, but ive never heard johan scratch to really trancey songs. Everytime Ive heard him scratch, it was to something like a beat, or HARD trance. It would be stupid to scratch over a really trancy song and Ive never heard him do that.
But since ppl pay to see him and hes making big $$$, i guess he can do whatever he wants.


Check out Johan at Trance Energy 2002...........I remember he kill the bass at some point, cut, and scratch on Jurgen Vries- The Theme. Well I guess people consider that Hard trance........but I remember he did it on some other track on that set. He just like to play around with shit!!

And OBC..........My assumption might be wrong.........but so far I think scratching on trance sounds like crap !! Waiting to hear the examples you have

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TranceLuver4evr
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quote:
Originally posted by trance_freak


can you elaborate more on that?


Do you have the set?.........If you do check it out

On BK & Nick Sentience - Flash (Original Mix).........start listening around the 87:00 mark.......you will hear a pause in the next couple of sec

The best one is on Kosheen- Catch (Hiver & Hammer Remix)...........start listening around the 104:00 mark.....you will hear a pause in next couple of sec also

I love the way PVD does that shit..........I would love to hear that pause even if some other DJs are spining that track!!!

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DJ Sunburn
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Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Macon, Ga, USA

do a stripshow and then start mixing with your penis.


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GeoffParnum
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Registered: Sep 2002
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I scratch to some of the darker/harder stuff I spin. I don’t know maybe it’s a bad idea, but I get bored.


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