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Originally posted by AY STAR ^^^so whats his explanation for this years line-up? its almost the same dj's or same pop type djs as edc they are doing an article in the wsj...how can they be "underground" they make no sense lol yea they will showcase 20 dif styles of music, but the most popular dj's in that genre. not saying this event wont be great, we dont know yet.. i just dont think their comments and their line-up this year arent making much sense

This years lineup? If you're comparing it to Tomorrowworld than I'm not sure if that's a good comparison.

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Originally posted by Neonbeats This years lineup? If you're comparing it to Tomorrowworld than I'm not sure if that's a good comparison.

iam talking about whatever one is the one in america

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Originally posted by AY STAR iam talking about whatever one is the one in america

Yeah, that and mysteryland seem to have completely different philosophies.

http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2013...woodstock-site/

"Mysteryland isn’t focused on what most Americans know as EDM – the energetic, crossover genre favored at Electric Daisy events that Mr. Stutterheim says amounts to “a modern version of pop music.” Instead, Mysteryland showcases some 20 different styles of electronic music, like trance and house, many of which emerged as a backlash against pop music, he said.

A good part of the budget for Mysteryland will also be spent on theater, movies, interactive installation art, street performers and “bizarre” stage decoration, he said, as opposed to celebrity-DJ salaries."

backlash against pop music????

Yea, that's why the 2012 lineup (In Holland no less) featured:

Fedde
Avicii
Martin Solveig
Hardwell
Dimitri Vegas & Like Mike
Chuckie
Porter Robinson
Zedd


...real underground.

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Originally posted by Menaschetrois backlash against pop music???? Yea, that's why the 2012 lineup (In Holland no less) featured: Fedde Avicii Martin Solveig Hardwell Dimitri Vegas & Like Mike Chuckie Porter Robinson Zedd ...real underground.

Yes, because those 8 artists are mysterland. Way to cherry pick to make your point


Fuck, i would go just for the entire Q-Dance stage, Speedy J, Jeff Mills, Loco Dice, Goldie and Seth troxler.


MONADE
Loco Dice
Simian Mobile Disco
Cajmere
Aeroplane
Reboot
Eats Everything
Daniel Sanchez
Lex Empress

DIRTY DUTCH
Chuckie
Porter Robinson
Cassius
Switch vs Betatraxx
Zedd
Dillon Francis
Mitchell Niemeyer
Glowinthedark
MC Roga

A-TRAK PRESENTS THE FOOL’S GOLD CLUB HOUSE
A-Trak
Tiga
Fake Blood
Riton
Nobody Beats The Drum ‘333
Rogerseventytwo

VISIONQUEST
Seth Troxler
Ryan Crosson
Subb-An
Boris Werner
Laura Jones
Dinky
William Kouam Djoko

BACK x BACK
Dennis Ferrer & Lilith
Surgeon & Anton Pieete
Bas Amro & Benny Rodrigues
Michael Mayer & Mike Ravelli
Hernan Cattaneo & Eelke Kleijn

ELECTRIC DELUXE PRESENTS
Speedy J
Jeff Mills
Len Faki
Rod
Perc
Xhin

GZG
Karotte
Monika Kruse
De Man Zonder Schaduw
Juan Sanchez
Tim Green
Moritz

OI! VS VAGE GASTEN
Goldie
Zombie Nation
Trolley Snatcha
Henzel & Disco Nova
Gomes
Attaque
Full Crate

Q-DANCE
Headhunterz
Zatox
Wildstylez
Psyko Punkz live
Endymion
Zany
Max Enforcer
Adaro
Code Black
Lee Mac
MC Ruffian

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I'm not cherry picking. I'm saying if that's their main stage, how can they say it is like "antipop" come on now

Edit: ok maybe I was cherry picking but the point remains

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Originally posted by Menaschetrois I'm not cherry picking. I'm saying if that's their main stage, how can they say it is like "antipop" come on now Edit: ok maybe I was cherry picking but the point remains

Read what I quoted again. he never says anything about the festival being antipop or not bringing any pop music at all. He says the festival will mostly be made up of music that isn’t what Americans have come to know as EDM. Then goes on to say how such genres such as trance and house originally emerged as a backlash against pop music(oh how things have changed)


Look, at the end of the day the company needs to at least break even in order to continue doing events. They aren't going be able to fill woodstock without bringing a little bit of something for that pop heads will like. As much as i hate shit like Avicci, if having him there will cause some people to be exposed and therefor come to like non pop electronic music then it's worth it. Even the underground raves of the 90's had pop acts once in a while. FFS, Day in the Park rave at six flags in '97 had Dee Lite, the epitome of pop house.

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Originally posted by Neonbeats Oh and Mysteryland is not putting 10mil in production, the wsj says it will cost $10mil to produce, which means the total price tag of the festival is $10mil. That is a quarter of what EDC costs.

So, how does that math work?

If expenses for Mysteryland are $10 mil, at 20k per day capacity that's $165/day.

Yeah, Zoo is pulling that much in it seems, but can a new festival like Mysteryland do that, when other camp-festivals charge hardly more for the full 3-day package?

Remains to be seen, but somehow 200-250 for the 3-day pass seems more appropriate = $5

Where's the revenue stream for the organisers to come from that makes up the diff?
Vendor fees or merch?
cut of the booze?
can't see it.

2 events? good luck finding lodging in that area

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Originally posted by CarS So, how does that math work? If expenses for Mysteryland are $10 mil, at 20k per day capacity that's $165/day. Yeah, Zoo is pulling that much in it seems, but can a new festival like Mysteryland do that, when other camp-festivals charge hardly more for the full 3-day package? Remains to be seen, but somehow 200-250 for the 3-day pass seems more appropriate = $5 Where's the revenue stream for the organisers to come from that makes up the diff? Vendor fees or merch? cut of the booze? can't see it.

I'm sure they make millions on merch/food/drinks. Plus they are bankrolled by a multi million dollar company. Either way I'm sure they will be making money. Pretty sure they looked into that...

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Originally posted by Skeptic 2 events? good luck finding lodging in that area

you brings your own: tent / RV / etc...