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SYSTEM-J
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Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Manchester

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Originally posted by Adam420
Pretty sure their attitude leans strongly against selling tickets. I think its done in the spirit of preserving the spontaneity that is sadly all too absent from club nights these days, where ticket sales dominate to a large extent.


Yes, you might spontaneously decide to go clubbing and then get spontaneously turned away at the door.


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Woony
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Why not just sell tickets like any other club?


'Any other club' in the UK, but selling tickets for clubs has never really been a big thing here, even for clubs with next to no door policy. It's just one of these cultural differences between different countries / city's clubbing culture.


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SYSTEM-J
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'Any other club' in the UK, but selling tickets for clubs has never really been a big thing here, even for clubs with next to no door policy. It's just one of these cultural differences between different countries / city's clubbing culture.


Your culture sucks.


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Your culture sucks.


I guess so. Although something about this sucking culture must not suck or else we wouldn't have all these tourists


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wotyzoid
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I think of that sort of door policy as just quality control, they probably know what they're doing.


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I think of that sort of door policy as just quality control, they probably know what they're doing.


Define "quality" without sounding like a complete fucking tool.

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wotyzoid
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It's all about the hype!


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Johan (DJ Irish)
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It's all about the hype!


This is a valid point as far as Berghain goes. The long queues and restrictive door policy helps it keep an air of exclusivity and keeps up the demand.

Quality control and all that still apply of course but I don't think one should underestimate the publicity effect of having that 'selection' process out in the open and the sense of 'I've been choosen!' of the punter/hipster when they finally get in

Been there twice, never got it. First time the queue was so ridiculously long we didn't even bother. Next time we came fairly early (23:00) and got turned away. Both times we ended up at Tresor instead and had a great time. The 'new' Tresor venue is huuuge compared to their old original shack in Potsdam but they've made a fairly decent job maintaining the vibe.

Lastly, first time to Berghain we stayed 30 minutes to just watch the door selection and there is no obvious policy like 'foreign looking' or things like that. All kind of people got in and all kinds of people got rejected. Regulars might have a bigger chance of getting in but other than that it seems equally restrictive across the board


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'Any other club' in the UK, but selling tickets for clubs has never really been a big thing here, even for clubs with next to no door policy. It's just one of these cultural differences between different countries / city's clubbing culture.


Same here and also in Belgium and I can't remember it ever was different. Selling tickets is only done for something special, but maybe in the UK it's special every weekend.


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Sand Leaper
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Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Oslo, Norway

Considering the harassment-related problems punters at Fabric have suffered for years coinciding with its steady growth in popularity, I'd argue that a strict door policy remains one of the best deterrents that security personnel can employ. The problem, however, is that Berghain seems so enamored with its own mystique and nostalgia that they alienate a large amount of the kind of punters they actually want through their doors to begin with.

Clubs in both the UK and Germany have things to learn here: stop trying to consciously live up to the stereotype of German 90s techno hedonism, and stop trying to cram as many people into your club as possible, regardless of whether these people actually give a fuck about the music or not, in order to cash in on brand hype.

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Woony
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Registered: Sep 2009
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To Berghain's credit, they have just done their thing since the very beginning. Despite all the hype they've stuck to their ways, which I think is rare in clubland. They've also never advertised their image themselves, it was all pieced together by other people.

Also all the hype and mysticism completely evaporates once you actually are inside and it becomes what it is: just a really good club.


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