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TranceElevation
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MSZ, I hoped you'd finish your 'aborted fetus' wip. I were not able to sleep after hearing that track.


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Paradox Lost
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Registered: Aug 2007
Location: San Francisco

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I'm going to amend my guide on How To Use Beatport Properly to include the tip "DO NOT search by genre".


How are you navigating it differently? I use and rely upon the genre tabs to obviously narrow my focus, but my method of searching through Beatport is to go track-by-track through each day's new releases among five or so genres. It's not an especially elegant or efficient method of finding new music, but it sure is thorough, and also ensures that I don't overlook anything that would otherwise be interesting (as far as Beatport is concerned).

It'd be nice if I could content myself by following artists and labels, as this is incredibly time consuming, but there are so many artists and labels I wouldn't have discovered in the first place without the above mentioned search method (and especially since so many of them have a discography of only one or two releases).


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Old Post Oct-05-2013 08:31  Palestine
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MSZ
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quote:
Originally posted by TranceElevation
MSZ, I hoped you'd finish your 'aborted fetus' wip. I were not able to sleep after hearing that track.


The world is not ready for real art.

*gets back to making supersaws

Old Post Oct-06-2013 02:39  Canada
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SYSTEM-J
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Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Manchester

quote:
Originally posted by Paradox Lost
How are you navigating it differently?


Erm... in all the ways I detail in that guide? I'll start off with an artist, track or label I know is in the style I'm after and follow my nose down the rabbit hole. If I start coming across nothing but shit I turn round and head back the way I came, until I pick up a promising trail again. Although occasionally I'll come across a very different but profitable seam. Anything good goes in the Hold Bin, and any of those crated tracks could be the spark-off point for a future search. With my last mix, I had tracks that had been in my Hold Bin since 2010 and I came back to them and started searching off that.


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> Maximum Elevation [Progressive House]
> DI.FM 26th Anniversary Guest Mix [Progressive House]
> Live @ Dance:Love:Hub London, 11.10.2025
> Higher Peaks [Progressive House]
> Dance:Love:Hub Afterparty (The Return) 23.11.24

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Juan Paulino
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Thanks for the recs. Will check 'em out.


You can add Perspectives Digital to that list.


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Redd
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Registered: Feb 2003
Location: Tønsberg

nice MSZ


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Paradox Lost
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quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Erm... in all the ways I detail in that guide? I'll start off with an artist, track or label I know is in the style I'm after and follow my nose down the rabbit hole. If I start coming across nothing but shit I turn round and head back the way I came, until I pick up a promising trail again. Although occasionally I'll come across a very different but profitable seam. Anything good goes in the Hold Bin, and any of those crated tracks could be the spark-off point for a future search. With my last mix, I had tracks that had been in my Hold Bin since 2010 and I came back to them and started searching off that.


Heh, I have several different accounts with both maxed out hold bins and shopping carts in the several years I've been digging through Beatport without actually buying anything. I haven't committed myself to doing that for a couple of years now, but I have to imagine they've since expanded the capacity of both by this point (of which I've taken screen shots, because nothing terrifies me more than logging on to these accounts in order to discover that they've either been deleted or their bins/carts emptied).

Regarding your guide, I just now noticed it posted atop the DJ Booth forum, and the only point of contention I have with it is its apparent wholesale dismissal of relying upon the genre tabs as a means of discovering new music. While each category is infested with material either dubiously or blatantly mis-categorized (which I'm assuming is the entire basis for your discouraging its use), it still generally does an at least adequate job of narrowing much of that material down to the scope of a specific type of sound, at least resembling the genres they're tagged with (with the exception of Progressive House, which I find amusing to say since we're likely both approaching that genre from a different musical mindset).

While I'm not suggesting this ought to in any way take precedence over the far more efficient means of going through Beatport that you outlined, opening up a genre tab and poking around for an hour or so in order to simply see what's out there can yield quite a bit of fruit, depending upon your search methods. Mine, as I mentioned above, is the tedious and time-consuming method of sampling track-by-track, day-by-day, and of the hundreds I sample each day, I might walk away with only about five. Still, my multiple hold bins and shopping carts are full of wonderful material that I can't imagine having otherwise discovered using even the most thorough filtering and tagging methods available through Beatport.

Point being, there's no reason to naturally assume that you're necessarily going to spend an arduous afternoon sampling through material that has no business being in the genre you're searching through, and if you have the time, patience, and willingness, I think it's worthwhile to occasionally pick a genre and start clicking your way down the rabbit hole (but with a healthy serving of salt).


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ptrpaul77
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Here's a track from those Prog titans Nicki Minaj and Justin Bieber:

http://www.beatport.com/track/beaut...lub-mix/4023832

Beatport needs a pop-house category if it's going to sell this sort of garbage.

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SYSTEM-J
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Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Manchester

quote:
Originally posted by Paradox Lost
While each category is infested with material either dubiously or blatantly mis-categorized (which I'm assuming is the entire basis for your discouraging its use)


Not particularly. It's more that the genres are far, far too broad and the old feature of having sub-genres to narrow searches was removed when they upgraded to the new build. To have one category for Drum & Bass or Electronica and no way of specifying beyond that is an absolute joke, for example. The point of my guide is to make searching more efficient and productive. What you're describing is the exact opposite of that.


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> Maximum Elevation [Progressive House]
> DI.FM 26th Anniversary Guest Mix [Progressive House]
> Live @ Dance:Love:Hub London, 11.10.2025
> Higher Peaks [Progressive House]
> Dance:Love:Hub Afterparty (The Return) 23.11.24

Like these sets? Come see me play live at Kibosh in Manchester: https://www.instagram.com/kibosh.mcr/

Old Post Oct-15-2013 19:53  England
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