went for Shonky and also for the MANDY party, sound was crap

but should we really support an event that discriminates against men?
70 for women, 95 for men, via marquee.
ok, there was a small RA contingent (see attendance list, just 150, which includes unticketed attendees, the 2x buyers wont pop that up mesningfully) that didn't discriminate, but in general this event does.

its their place, no one has a right to be there IMO, but we dont have to support that.

does keeping the sausage-fest factor low(er), maybe, outweigh this obvious discrimination?
certainly not on principle.
(all of those subsidized ladies are of course attending only with their gf's, and single, which makes this such a benefit for the *possible* dude-overhang w/o this discrimination ).

music will be great no doubt..
but they'll be back where everyone gets equal treatment, at least Capriati (his awesome spring Output set had none of this attitude)

If Carola limits himself in this way in future too (guessing the high prices are due to his cut mostly, his choice, its nor like hes gods gift to the scene we can't do without)

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Originally posted by CarS does keeping the sausage-fest factor low(er), maybe, outweigh this obvious discrimination?

yup lol.

honestly, i wouldn't go as far to say it's discrimination. i gladly will pay an extra $10-$20 to not be surrounded by dicks.

Coming soon to Output on a Sunday.

Marco Carola extended set Doors at 7pm.
1st Release $20


I can sense it!!

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Originally posted by diabloargentino yup lol. honestly, i wouldn't go as far to say it's discrimination. i gladly will pay an extra $10-$20 to not be surrounded by dicks.

discrimination is different treatment for substantially the same thing.
say, hypothetically, an event is felt, by some, to have too few Asians, or white people, attending, and they charged more for non Asians / on-white people, thats not discrimination?
of course it is .

just because it is seen as GOOD discrimination, as you obviously do here, doesnt make it less so.
most would say that myhypothetical is a form of BAD discrimination, and nor support it.

I'm totally against forbidding such behavior like I said, its their place, they can decide what to do, but calling a spade a spade, and doing what that implies (discrimination is discrimination no matter its INTENTION) is each customers choice.
you can overlook it, your choice, but I dont think one should relativize it away based on whether it provides a subjective benefit or not.

Do you really think the dicks are kept away, in fact?
see your own 50% comment above for a good answer, and I will bet with you, that most of that 50% are not women.

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Originally posted by djnoonstar Coming soon to Output on a Sunday. Marco Carola extended set Doors at 7pm. 1st Release $20 I can sense it!!

I 2nd that.

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besides, there is so much other not-so-often -in-town music of extreme quality tonight, like the party with Matthias Meyer, or the White Material v. Vereker event, that its not hard to pass on something with such problems as I see them.

RA gave the White Material a well deserved highlight in their weekly mailer, BTW...

seb and noonstar I'll see you there, ,

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Originally posted by CarS discrimination is different treatment for substantially the same thing. say, hypothetically, an event is felt, by some, to have too few Asians, or white people, attending, and they charged more for non Asians / on-white people, thats not discrimination? of course it is . just because it is seen as GOOD discrimination, as you obviously do here, doesnt make it less so. most would say that myhypothetical is a form of BAD discrimination, and nor support it. I'm totally against forbidding such behavior like I said, its their place, they can decide what to do, but calling a spade a spade, and doing what that implies (discrimination is discrimination no matter its INTENTION) is each customers choice. you can overlook it, your choice, but I dont think one should relativize it away based on whether it provides a subjective benefit or not. Do you really think the dicks are kept away, in fact? see your own 50% comment above for a good answer, and I will bet with you, that most of that 50% are not women.

don't get me wrong, in principle i don't disagree with you at all. i'm shocked that there hasn't been a lawsuit yet re: diff ticket prices since miami, nyc and vegas clubs are notorious for this. it's definitely bullshit, no doubt.

i'm just leveling with the situation. obviously for parties like NYE where guys are like $500 and girls $200 (aka LIV/STory in miami this year) then it's insane. but for a party like tonight where lets say it may be 15-20 bucks more for a guy but you know it's going to be a good time, good ratio, etc then i'm not going to get riled up about it :P.

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holy smokes, 200 v. 500, insane!
the crazy thing is, they wouldn't do this if it didn't work, its all people who still pay, that are to blame.
If a boycott via the wallet took place, that shit would be gone pronto.
I believe in market workings, property rights (clubs can ask what they want), that's why I am not in favor of lawsuits, and why any that get filed, shouldn't succeed.
no one had a right to anyone else labor or service, but ee shouldn't put up with it if we dont like it.
if there are enough not going,then others who offer better treatment, like output, will get the business that these shenanigans are driving away.

BTW, I do realize that people often dont act mature enough to feel that they dont need "to be there", human nature, but sad somehow that it is so, even when 18 was long ago
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enjoy, I'm sure it'll be a great party, musically speaking

If this event is not for you, then go somewhere else and move along....really, discrimination? Really, how many posts are you going to make about this?

It's a nightclub.

We had tickets on sale for $40 without any gender on RA. There were giveaways. There were double ticket options. We have been very accommodating to anyone and everyone who has wanted to come out to see Marco.

I thought you couldn't come because you were coming late and didnt know if an early ticket would be valid? Not because of this philosophical objection to a venue's ticketing prices.

Nightlife is about people finding the right environment where they can enjoy themselves and have a good time. It's not about shitting all over something that you personally don't enjoy.

STFU already. When did music and parties get overtaken by over-analyzing nerds who forget how to let go and have a good time?

Ahhh....that felt good. Must be the cleanse I've been taking. Juicing for three days opens up your mind. You should try it CarS.

Peace out!

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And if you're going to quote this previous post, reply paragraph by paragraph, I dont have the time tonight...or tomorrow. or the energy.

I'm going to have a great time with my friends and hear some amazing music.

I hope you do the same.

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