And not even because of drug use! Because of drug sales. This empire has a disdain for anything it cannot effectively tax. Users are just offered as the sacrificial lamb of sorts.

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Originally posted by Psyshell Honestly though, the underground events will always go on for the most part. I think the negative media publicity is only such a big problem in the US because of firstly their police state attitude and secondly because electronic music just isn't that popular there. It's much easier to demonise electronic music when 90% of the population almost exclusively listens to pop/rock/hip hop/rnb etc. Hopefully some of the draconian laws I heard about a while back that were actually going to specifically target electronic music didn't get passed. Here's an Australian perspective from the early 2000s (all 5 parts are avaliable on youtube).

If you can't hold an underground dance music party without it being shut down, it ain't underground enough. Y'all just getting lazy.

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Originally posted by Psyshell Honestly though, the underground events will always go on for the most part. I think the negative media publicity is only such a big problem in the US because of firstly their police state attitude and secondly because electronic music just isn't that popular there.

Of course there will always be an underground scene, but this is about this mass youth culture frenzy for electronic music. I think a key problem is that the US is simply too big and population centres too geographically disparate for youth culture movements to spread from local scenes to nationwide crazes without corporate backing. The Internet is all well and good, but dance music involves people actually meeting in one field, club or warehouse and dancing together. But dance music inevitably proves to be irreconcilable with corporate money because it is an extremely drug-oriented youth movement, and for all the rigorous attempts to market it away from that image, it's still blatantly about thousands of kids getting fucked up.

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> Dance:Love:Hub Afterparty (The Return) 23.11.24

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We still have these underground psychadelic parties where people of all ages come to dance and trip balls.

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Originally posted by Chew There has always been a difference between E and MDMA, E white clinicals are more or less pure MDMA, almost all other forms of E are mixtures with anything for heroine to god knows what. If its not white it probably ain't pure MDMA. Also if it ain 't a cap and it is a press it probably ain't a pure.

MDMA is the chemical name
E is the street name

just like smack is to heroin.
Heroin isn't pure, it is still heroin
coke is never pure still cocaine.
MDMA pills called Ecstasy never really pure.

if there was a distinction, it was people asking for pure MDMA.


There is no difference. It is a naming convention. And it only started appearing after the pills started being either MDMX , or cut with amphetamines or other stuff. Basically when they started being really shitty. I don't know. Maybe they got better , but the pre cursor is rather regulated now and it seems nobody will pay more than 20 so they tend to suck. And yes, someone is going to say they get great pills, i'm sure you do. This is the general trend.

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On And not even because of drug use! Because of drug sales. This empire has a disdain for anything it cannot effectively tax. Users are just offered as the sacrificial lamb of sorts.

Cum in my mouth