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Originally posted by Viber lol all you want at the american dream but the opportunity for prosperity and success is available for a large amount of people,yes it's not Denmark and some people choose to be workaholics in order to buy more shit they do not need but owning a rooftop, a car and buying food is fucking easy in America and you should appreciate it a bit more.

So long as you are not a woman or a minority. Not that we execute homosexuals or women merely because they were accused of adultery, so I do get what you are saying, but "The American Dream" has a lot of catching up to do with American mouths.

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You are talking about the middle east as if it could have have been some kind of utopia without the intervention of American troops, ever heard of individuals like Saddam Hussein? Assad? all those other dickheads? i don't know if America helped the situation but it was all pretty fucked up from the first place.

But the US installed Hussein and the Ba'ath Party in the first place, and supported him throughout the Iran-Iraq war in lieu of "our" ousted Shah. We wanted a friend in the region who would be generous with resources. What could go wrong?

I realize your point is that it doesn't really matter who started it, and that violence should be condemned in all of its forms - and I agree with you, and you are correct that Islamist nations are the perpetrators of untold grief against innocent people; primarily other Muslims. But attempting to extract the ideology of the Other in an historical vacuum is an absolutely useless endeavor.

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney The USA murders more of its own citizens than anyone else. Pretty sure no Muslim country has wiped out several societies numbering in the millions. Pretty sure no Muslim country came close to the slave trade the west were running. They haven't nuked anyone. They haven't started any world wars. Their hands are pretty fucking clean in comparison.

Actually, Islamic nations were plundering Africa for slaves centuries before the Americas had even been discovered. They were at it for almost a thousand years in total and enslaved tens of millions of people in that time, including millions of Europeans. There are several Islamic nations that still had slave populations numbering hundreds of thousands well into the 20th Century. And you only have to look at the atrocious treatment of immigrant labourers in countries like Qatar and Dubai to see that slavery is effectively still in operation in Islamic countries right now in 2014.

Put simply, you don't have a fucking clue what you're talking about, as usual. I'm not even going to get into "the USA murders more of its own citizens than anyone else". Stick to chord progressions.

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On So long as you are not a woman or a minority.

you serious ??

Women are CEOs of Major Corporations.

http://blogs.wsj.com/atwork/2014/03...he-fortune-500/

look at that growth on that chart. At My job, iut of 500 people, it's 65% women..

As for Minority - stop it... we are not living in th 50's-60's any more.. using the race card is overrated... everyone has an equal chance...

out of curiosity: are you saying that because you are a girl or/and a minority?

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Originally posted by Serial Killer you serious ?? Women are CEOs of Major Corporations. http://blogs.wsj.com/atwork/2014/03...he-fortune-500/ look at that growth on that chart. At My job, iut of 500 people, it's 65% women.. As for Minority - stop it... we are not living in th 50's-60's any more.. using the race card is overrated... everyone has an equal chance... out of curiosity: are you saying that because you are a girl or/and a minority?

did you really quote an article that talks about the lack of women in power positions in Fortune 500 companies as evidence that they are on the rise?

lol

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Originally posted by Floorfiller did you really quote an article that talks about the lack of women in power positions in Fortune 500 companies as evidence that they are on the rise? lol

lol.. i did by accident.. was reading several of them at once and pasted the wrong link...
meant to post this one.. i promise
http://www.mercurynews.com/business...e-500-companies

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On But the US installed Hussein and the Ba'ath Party in the first place

did they? got some info for me?

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_ac..._Iraq#Iraq_1963

And that's just limited to what's been declassified...

//"Installed" is too specific a word. But through all of the CIA's manipulations and actively supported coups -not just in the region, but in Iraq, itself- they just kinda let that one slide? You couldn't possibly believe they didn't do everything it took to combat the oh-so-inevitable spread of communism in the middle east- Kissinger was a notorious shitglutton.

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