I send the odd track out and have had a few signed but I fail more than I 'succeed'.

I own a small finance business and had another music related surprise a few weeks back.

A new client contacted me, aged 21. We met and did business. Turns out he is signed to a large label and received a £100k advance. He's no good at mixing and his production skills are very average but he was paid this money (and another lump due shortly)for putting songs together - the melody, lyrics and a basic track version that other producers then assemble into a finished article. He did no networking or online promotion, he was just found and signed, the content did the talking for him.

In summary his content has value.
Creating unique engaging content is for me the holy grail something I am determined to achieve at some point no matter how hard or unlikely.

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I used to, and over the years got closer and closer to getting one accepted.

I quit writing electronic music in 2011, but if I was going to start again, I'd go the diy route. Label submission was my way of checking the track's quality and/or compliance to trends.

Looking back, I definitely did not work hard enough to get there. The bar is also way higher now than when I started.

Nah, no big labels release classic trance stuff anymore sadly, so I founded my own label and got a distributor so now I publish my own stuff. Speaking of which, if you're reading this and are a musician that produces oldschool trance and just want to get your stuff up for sale, feel free to message me with demos...if it's good I may put it up on iTunes, Beatport, Amazon etc for you and perhaps even give it a remix.

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PM me your oldschool style trance tunes for potential worldwide digital releasing and free mastering!
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Originally posted by sonix If the music is quality, then people will recognize it.

It doesn't matter how good it is if nobody knows it's there.

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Originally posted by sonix Label Worx has a demo and promo service similar to yours. Is that yours? If not, have you tried theirs? Are you two similar? Looking for feedback before I try Label Worx.

I don't know how their demo service works on the back-end. I've only seen the submission form once - about a month ago. There is a lot of things it doesn't do right (in my opinion).

- It doesn't allow submitting multiple tracks (mine does up to 4)
- It doesn't embed into the record label website, thus labels have to direct people off their site for submitting demos. My demo manager embeds seamlessly into any website.
- As far as I'm aware it does not validate if the soundcloud link is correct (mine does)
- Mine embeds into facebook fanpages too.

What label worx does better:
- support for A&R teams (on my to-do list but I'm focusing on other products first).
- commenting ability on promos waveforms. But I don't believe that feature is particularly valuable.

That said, mine will be more expensive, but I consider it better as mine seems easier to use and provides a better user experience. Also a funny note they present it as something revolutionary but I started doing this a year before them , plus there was a service even before mine, but too expensive (40x labelworx price) for pretty much any record label out there.

Also their promobox feature in their promo campaigns is shit. More on that soon .

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If less is more think about how much more more would be. -Frasier

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All services are fine, I just think they've all been created for the labels to push promos to dj's and other people. The promo pages themselves are not optimized for dj's to consume the music in a user-friendly way at all.

Edit: Except for VIP Ultima. Very slow pageloads, crashes often because it is fully flash based. Hogs CPU/battery. Terrible product.

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If less is more think about how much more more would be. -Frasier

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i wont even bother with labels as most of them put it up for public vote on some i mean any idiot can buy votes.

also if you dont sound the same as ever body else you wont get far with alot of labels they like the cookie cutter sound of now and only the people they want seem to make new sounding stuff.

another thing i have noticed is the big increase of pretty boy dj/producers that look more like a boy band member than a dj most dj's i knew look like normal people not pin up stars so if you aint got the look you wont get the spot unless you make a banger as the labels send the dj to every big event they can(looks = girl fans or gay fans if thats there way)good looks means good pr even if the music is the same shit they keep releasing with tiny tweeks.

i dont in any way think my music would be good enough but i also know my old self does not have the boyish good looks to be a p.r. dj.

i bet you make more money ghost writing for people instant cash no worrying about other crap.

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Originally posted by Richard Butler A new client contacted me, aged 21. We met and did business. Turns out he is signed to a large label and received a £100k advance. He's no good at mixing and his production skills are very average but he was paid this money (and another lump due shortly)for putting songs together - the melody, lyrics and a basic track version that other producers then assemble into a finished article. He did no networking or online promotion, he was just found and signed, the content did the talking for him.

Good gravy, how do I get that deal?

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Originally posted by Storyteller ... Without turning it into a lame sales ploy: I have developed a service that solves the workload or reviewing demos for the most part. I see competitors developing similar products now too (but are inferior ). The labels that use my product respond to pretty much every demo coming in within a week or two. Some consistently reply within 48 hrs.

How does one submit demos to you?

eta: nevermind, I read more closely and see you're not set up yet. Will be waiting with bated breath!

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Click the red link in my sig. You can't miss it . The demo submission form is there.

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If less is more think about how much more more would be. -Frasier

It's not about whether people will dance to their music, it's about marketing and building a brand. Much easier to do that with a pretty face (PVD, Garrix, Lisa Lashes, Sandra Collins, Avicii, Tiesto, Ferry, etc) than with most of us pudgy couch addicts.

people would still buy music but the real money is from shows.

im a man utd supporter(football) and in Pre season Martin Garrix was playing animals at half time i mean wtf is that.

he literly played 3-4 soungs and was done but i bet he and any one else he has involved was paid well.

to do shows if ur not already famous you need to be marketable good looks is the oldest trick in the book used by nearly every pr group about so it stands to reason that they will take pretty boys that will make hearts melt of females/males from 15 to 40 years old.

remember the take that days? or other bo ybands most were dog shit but girls went crazy as they looked good

if you had a record label had a good looking star that can sorta dj and produce why not get tunes made for him so you can make a killing of his tours as thats were 70% of the money is if not more