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Originally posted by Richard Butler Matt, how do you download those tracks, I cannot see any DL button on SC? Have you disabled it?

You should be able to download it on Soundcloud (except for the sets, I don't think Soundcloud puts the DL button in there).

On the website of Loving Music you can click through to the releases and download it from there. I also just updated the homepage so you can download it directly from there as well.

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If less is more think about how much more more would be. -Frasier

I have noticed electronic music fans seems to strongly identify with labels (Armada, Anjunabeats, Bedrock, Spinnin', etc.) They don't necessarily want to pay for songs themselves but they like knowing the music is from a "real" label with a large fanbase.

Also, I have noticed in order to get on the playlists of many of the main DJs (and I think DJ support is the most important thing for an up and coming artist who wants to make a career out of music) you essentially have to be (or have been) on one of a handful of labels.

I think you may as well give the music away though, while having the option for fans to stream and also have songs up on youtube in monetized videos in order to have some revenue. I don't know the figures but just doing some quick math I bet even labels that most people have heard of have releases that could barely buy everyone involved a cup of coffee to celebrate the release based on download sales alone after expenses are paid.

The only issue I see is -if- you ever had a hit like Animals or something similar (which I don't is likely given the genre this label focuses on) you may miss out on some great download sales. However, I would assume any publishing deals with big businesses, where some real money starts coming into play, would still involve working out royalties with the label regardless of whether or not it is a free download for fans on soundcloud.

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Originally posted by Raphie The money is in DJ'ing

The money is in anything that is not digital. Analog products/performances are scarce and there is only limited inventory/time and people understand that. The attitude towards digital media is entirely different nowadays and the value of a lot of digital products, media especially, have been dropping for years now.

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If less is more think about how much more more would be. -Frasier

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Originally posted by Storyteller The money is in anything that is not digital. Analog products/performances are scarce and there is only limited inventory/time and people understand that. The attitude towards digital media is entirely different nowadays and the value of a lot of digital products, media especially, have been dropping for years now.

This is dead on, but I doubt the integrity of that attitude. Do you think creating digital content is permanently scarred or will it see money again soon?

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Originally posted by Raphie The money is in DJ'ing

Sure. Although there is money in music publishing too (if you are credited as the songwriter of your track).

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Originally posted by Kthought This is dead on, but I doubt the integrity of that attitude. Do you think creating digital content is permanently scarred or will it see money again soon?

I don't expect the money to be coming back. Prices are mostly still dropping and hardly ever corrected for inflation (stimulating the price drops). Online distribution has been made overly complex introducing tons of unnecessary middle-men taking their slice for whatever little service they provide.

On the upside the increase in use of legal (paid) platforms is encouraging. People are willing to pay, but only if the service meets their expectations, which vary a lot depending on the individual. That's where my earlier rant on copyright societies comes in again, their system allows multi-million dollar funded operations exclusively to distribute copyrighted audio/video content. Meanwhile there is a gaping hole of customized/niche demand in between illegal downloads and legal alternatives plenty of small companies would like to jump in but can't. There's big opportunities there for new business but copyright societies block it at the expense of artists.

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Originally posted by Kthought This is dead on, but I doubt the integrity of that attitude. Do you think creating digital content is permanently scarred or will it see money again soon?

tell that to about 1000 people that made games a 16 year old programmer could make for ios.

More music is sold now than ever. EDM and the people that run the industry are just kinda stupid. That is pretty much it.

keep saying this over and over until it sinks in. Until you think beatport matters , you don't understand the music industry. IF you are selling yourself as a producer, you don't understand the music industry.

if you don't understand something, hire someone or do some learning.

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Where you are getting your numbers that more music (albums/digital downloads) is sold now than ever? One source says half as much music was sold in 2009 as in 1999. Looking at graphs of worldwide sales from a variety of sources it looks like at the least a dip since the 90s. Although, I can completely believe that revenue or profit for artists is the same or greater though because of live performances fees, music publishing, and endorsement deals.

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Originally posted by Trancelover03591 Where you are getting your numbers that more music (albums/digital downloads) is sold now than ever? One source says half as much music was sold in 2009 as in 1999. Looking at graphs of worldwide sales from a variety of sources it looks like at the least a dip since the 90s. Although, I can completely believe that revenue or profit for artists is the same or greater though because of live performances fees, music publishing, and endorsement deals.

the problem is that alot of the money say in advertising or licensing isn't included. There is more money being made by more people.

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney the problem is that alot of the money say in advertising or licensing isn't included. There is more money being made by more people.

Yeah, I can believe that.

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I can't although RIAA is likely to be biased.

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