Just different perspectives. For example I find completely uninteresting what you mentioned cause I think the answer of those is pretty much definite. It won't reveal anything I'd find value in. A re-discussion of the clap in itself on the other hand touches the foundations of that concept and the answer isn't definite. What does it provide? Is it necessary? Is it always a plus or could it deduct? It's like someone who's more interested in the "how" and someone like me who'd like to question the "why".

You're talking me about "groove" and I'm asking if that's even necessary or needed.

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney Like asking about keytars and if they should exist.

FTFY

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I'm not going to touch everything else that's been said, but I will mention a pet peeve of mine.

Tracks that start out with only the kick and then introduce the clap halfway through the climax of the tune only for the sake of change. You can do it if you introduce another element that drives the track forward but often times I feel like it makes the track loose it's forward drive.

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Originally posted by DJ RANN For instance, had you said "the clap can be so complex than just the 1 & 3 - furkers give me some discussion) well Richie would have banged on about romantic period composition, Dave would have said "in my day we didn't even have hands to clap with", Geoff would have said KVR have melted down over claps before, Juan would have said I am going to buy some claps then sell them again, Darek would have said nice claps, cheers, and mystery would have said, well you know, because he said it.

Brilliant!

But you left me out - "a clap is like cookery".

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Originally posted by DJ RANN For instance, had you said "the clap can be so complex than just the 1 & 3 - furkers give me some discussion) well Richie would have banged on about romantic period composition, Dave would have said "in my day we didn't even have hands to clap with", Geoff would have said KVR have melted down over claps before, Juan would have said I am going to buy some claps then sell them again, Darek would have said nice claps, cheers, and mystery would have said, well you know, because he said it.

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Originally posted by Richard Butler Brilliant! But you left me out - "a clap is like cookery".

Lol! I was gonna write you would have a story about a documentary you watched about a Mongolian clapping circle and the unique time signature they use :P

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Originally posted by Seandroid I'm not going to touch everything else that's been said, but I will mention a pet peeve of mine. Tracks that start out with only the kick and then introduce the clap halfway through the climax of the tune only for the sake of change. You can do it if you introduce another element that drives the track forward but often times I feel like it makes the track loose it's forward drive.

Dance music without a backbeat to me , that i don't fucking get. I mean i think people that do that are rhythmically challenged. YOu will never hear a 70s funk classic with the emphsis on 1 and 3. There are 0 tracks and if there was an era and musician profile that understood groove, it would be those guys. And you don't get it. Like you don't find it once.

Thats why adding it later is so effective because it is shit until it is there. But this is comming from a guy who went to events back in the day were dancing was something people did. The flailing people do now ... i mean i don't know first hand but from videos, people just wave their phones and jump.

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney Dance music without a backbeat to me , that i don't fucking get. I mean i think people that do that are rhythmically challenged. YOu will never hear a 70s funk classic with the emphsis on 1 and 3. There are 0 tracks and if there was an era and musician profile that understood groove, it would be those guys. And you don't get it. Like you don't find it once. Thats why adding it later is so effective because it is shit until it is there. But this is comming from a guy who went to events back in the day were dancing was something people did. The flailing people do now ... i mean i don't know first hand but from videos, people just wave their phones and jump.

I think dance tracks that don't have a backbeat feel faster, somehow.

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney i mean i don't know first hand but from videos, people just wave their phones and jump.

1! 2! 3! JUMP!

That's like the Ultra slogan.

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