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Originally posted by DJ RANN . In fact I'm struggling to think of any other regular cardio exercise that is actually worse for your body?

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J By that logic anyone who has ran a full marathon is guaranteed knee and/or hip problems. There are a few blokes in my office in their 50s and 60s who ran marathons back in their day and none of them have any knee or hip problems. Nor have they expressed any regret or advised me against running when we've talked about it.

"marathonS?" as in plural or many? Then honestly they're really lucky. I have a family member who is a consultant physio therapist specializing in osteoarthritis in the knees and her clinic is filled with either people who have heavy manual labor jobs (brickies, welders, warehouse workers) or runners, especially long distance.

The problem is that we're just not designed from an evolutionary standpoint to have that level of impact for sustained periods. Our cartilage developed as a fixed lubrication system for our knee joints and the knee caps are really the only protection - there's no real shock absorbing mechanism that evolved (like you have with animals that jump long distances in relative proportion to their bodies).

I suppose doing it in moderation really won't cause problems - we're resilient that respect but running long distances regularly just seems like a sure fire way to fuck up your knees, and trust me, once you're there, there's no going back.

I'm lucky I dodged the bullet as I did Taekwondo for several years but I did it at a point when I could still recover and rehab with no lasting effects. Now? No fucking way.

One guy was a distance runner for the army team, ran plenty of marathons. Another was a fell runner, a third guy ran at least one London marathon.

I've already decided to shift to cycling in a couple of years, as many runners do. But running a marathon is something I'm set on achieving, and I'm confident my mileage totals are way below most genuine running enthusiasts. In answer to your earlier question - I can't even count the number of serious injuries friends have suffered from football or rugby. Ask Vivid Boy about his knee operations. Compared to most popular sports running is pretty harmless, as long as you build your body up steadily and don't push it with high mileage.

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Last edited by SYSTEM-J on Jul-31-2015 at 20:08

Well the main thing is that we evolved to live to be maybe 50 - 60 if we were lucky. So, to live perhaps a decade with creaking joints rather than three to four of them.

Ok I need advice on healthier meal options now...

I love chicken, fish and turkey and rarely eat red meat so that's a decent start (I think).

My problem now is eating less fat and WAY less salt, but every food label I read in my local grocery store seems to be packed with fat and salt

I need the help of the healthier eaters on here to help me eat less fat, less salt and I'd also really appreciate advice on what kind of salads to eat as even when I eat at a restaurant and order a salad I've been told that some restaurant salads have just as much fat and calories as a fucking big mac. WTF

I should also note that type 2 diabetes and heart disease run in my family, and since I take certain medications that fuck with my blood sugar I wouldn't mind suggestions based on avoiding those two problems for as long as possible.

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Stay away from processed meat (or anything, really) as much as you can. Most fish is generally pretty low in fat, and if you're going for chicken/turkey then go for breast meat, as the other parts of the bird have a higher fat content.

Where the fat and calories often kick in, like what you were saying about salads, is in the sauce/dressing/marinades etc. It might seem a little boring at first, but if you're cooking your own food, then try to use herbs and spices to flavour what you're making, rather than sauces/pre-made-whatever that you buy at the supermarket. At a restaurant... I dunno, you kinda have to eat what they give you, but ask the wait staff about it. Specific dietary requirements are fairly common, and a lot of restaurants will cater to it if they can. Or they do here, anyway.

I eat ok, but my diet is far from perfect, so take my post with a grain of salt. Some others here will hopefully be able to help more

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You know Ive been told before to buy a full BBQ chicken from the grocery store and use it for meals throughout the week.

I have no problem doing this but half the fucking chicken is dark meat... Am I supposed to waste that much of what I buy?

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Originally posted by Alex You know Ive been told before to buy a full BBQ chicken from the grocery store and use it for meals throughout the week. I have no problem doing this but half the fucking chicken is dark meat... Am I supposed to waste that much of what I buy?

If you're looking to cut down on fat, then a whole BBQ chicken isn't the best idea, IMO. The skin, particularly, is basically... fat. They will cook the chicken to make it tasty, not healthy.

That said, I know you have mobility issues at the moment. Are you somewhere that you can cook meals properly without a huge fuck around? Or do you need to get ready-to-go stuff from the store?

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