I think you guys should go see the one that you want and don't argue about it here. Personally, I have seen Diggers three times now and to tell you the truth, I will not see him again unless he is with Sasha or doing some tour with some other DJ that I want to see. He is a great DJ but my time in Ottawa was spent with total Diggerhead and I just can't listen to that anymore.

^ Of course it comes down to opinion.

You see this guy was just stating his opinion...

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how anyone considers that god awful horse shit trance any form of respectable music is beyond me..

and what a great opinion that is.

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all i gotta say is u want dirty u will get dirty cauz digweed is gonna fuck u up from head to toe his dark filthy dirty beats that will make u wanna get tha fuck out of the country and live in a desert island by ur self cauz really really for dirty house fans diggers is gonna deliver ....

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just cause Digweed spins at a 130BPM and Talla pumps it to 140BPM doesn't make his music any more "intense". By that logic, D'n'B and Happy Hardcore would be the most intense genre's wouldn't they? Cuz they're even higher than 140BPM. So BPM doesn't have an effect on "energy". The elements of the song itself do though...and progressive can be made very simply, but have so much energy, depending on how the dj places the song into his set. And in trance, the synth-work and the 4/4 umc umc umc beat are what give its intensity.

For me, trance and prog switched sides almost completely. I can groove and lose myself to prog, but chillout and let my mind relax to trance. I need some dirty dangerous rhythm nowadays...

...John 00 Flemming, AvB and PvD will still make me go crazy tho

^ very well said about the bpm's. Funny because Happy Hardcore is by far the least intense music out there.

Digweed you are so dirty you put Christina to shame!

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after hearing Digweed drop such a sick set at Area 2, how can i no go see him!

I thought many of you would learn by now, especially after what happened at Sasha 2 weeks ago.

Digweed does not spin trance, period.

All I have to say is to take a look at the UK. It's dead (i have been told this by people who are in the industry over there). Why??

Well it's called the UK disease. DJ's have reached 'rock-star' status in the UK. They walk around with this huge chip on their shoulders like they're gods gift to music (i'm not naming any names). Because of this, they think that they can play anything and still call it art or music. And people, or should i say sheep, say "Uh, it must be good because ______ is playing it.." So they all hop on the band-wagon.

Well this wasn't a problem while it was big. But now it's a huge problem in the UK; because the cohort that recognizes the huge names have all reached an age where they no longer club as frequently as they did once before. The new clubbing cohort that is slowly trickling into the market is not blind-sided by the "big name" phenomenon and notice immediately that the music they play is shit.

Gatecrasher: DEAD
Cream: DEAD

And the new generation of kids listen to alternative, not electronica. They go to bars and pubs instead of super clubs.

Now take a look at Holland. Can they get any bigger? They have never been effected by the UK disease. They go out and listen to good music, and not necessarily the big names. They have the best parties, and have the best scene anywhere. Why?? Because their artists actually have passion about the music they produce and play. They are stand up DJ's that don't carry chips on their shoulders and actually give a shit about their fans. They cater to the crowd on not to themselves when they play, and that makes the difference.

I hope i made some sense with this.

i hope ur not refering to sasha when u say that : I thought many of you would learn by now, especially after what happened at Sasha 2 weeks ago.
cauz sasha came to montreal and delivered a six hour set of the best beats around also 50% is white label so well see the reaction of the rest that didnt get to this gig in a few month

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Originally posted by itikia I thought many of you would learn by now, especially after what happened at Sasha 2 weeks ago.

I think I speak for everyone (yep everyone) when I say, what the fuck are you talking about? Sasha 2 weeks ago bares no relevance to this conversation in any way or form. Just the fact that you would imply that both Sasha and Digweed are one the same limits your credibility with your other theories.

This "Uk Disease" you are referring to, and their scene being 'dead' as you put it. Wake up buddy. The Fridge, Heaven, and countless of other clubs bring in headliners (on our scale) on fucking tuesdays. You can't merely pigeon hole all of the United Kingdom because you know some wanker in the industry. I sure as hell aint no expert, but when I was there the scene was thriving. House, trance, drum and bass, uk garage is massive and we to this day owe our scene to the Union Jack.

(blah blah techno came out of berlin I know, but the acid house revolution are the roots of the party scene)

Perhaps there very well may be a revolution against electronica music, but calling it dead is a little too harsh. You're generalizing a pretty big demographic bub. Not only that but the UK is known for it's diversity. Dead. That makes me laugh, 90% of the dance music labels still have roots in the UK.

You say "Digweed doesn't spin trance period." Wow, you're quite the observant trance addict. Who the hell said it was trance in the first place? If it's not trance it's bad? I'm pretty sure I'll be the judge of my own opinion.

You know, I'm not trying to come off an asshole, but your comments are aggressive and antagonizing for no reason. I feel the need to defend Digweed and the Brits because your arguments aren't justifiable. Why can't I like Digweed and say Paul Van Dyk at the same time. I always feel like people on this board try to dictate whats right and wrong. Christ. End Rant.

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Originally posted by itikia Gatecrasher: DEAD Cream: DEAD

Gatecrasher November 16th, 2002
Underworld Live
Tiesto
Judge Jules
Armin
Talla 2XLC
Mario Piu
Lisa Lashes
Lab 4
BK
XPRESS 2
Josh Wink

Wow sounds like a real drag. Oh wait, 2 weeks later also sounds like another sleeper, I mean dead!

Gatecrasher November 30th, 2002
Armin
Mario Piu
Rank 1
Kai Tracid
Solar Stone
Matt Hardwick

So dead. That fucking lineup would be paradise here. I haven't even started looking at Cream, I'm feeling inspired at the moment tho. Peace out.

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Originally posted by itikia Gatecrasher: DEAD Cream: DEAD

Oh-Oh, look what I found..

Cream Presents Cream x10 Nov. 2nd 2002

Mauro Picotto
Judge Jules
Sonique
Marco V
Oliver Klein
Danny Slade
Big AL

Shit why read a book to go to sleep when I have dj's like that. God that scene in the U.K is soo, hmm how do you say, tired, no thats not it. Boring, no thats not it either. Dead, thats the word I was looking for.

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