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Originally posted by Twilogoddess Oakie is predictable...he plays the same tunes all the time. He doesn't take risks & play NEW records. He relies on classics & anthems. He's a crowd pleaser. His sound hasn't evolved..he sounds the same as he did in 97.

Twilogoddess, we understand that you don't like him, just leave it at that. There was a "wind" issue as stated by someone that was there, and I have seen many dj's get pissed at soundsetup's and take off...after all, it makes them look like an ass.

Steve

First, in response to whoever thought Oakey was coked out in during one of his sets needs to spend some time around some addicts like my friends before you can make a statement like that. I understand you probably added a coolness factor to your post, but you should know that Oakey has been drug-free for awhile now.

Second, Twilogoddess, you must understand that Oakenfold has taken it upon himself to revolutionize dance culture in North America. I agree with you 100% that he plays anthemesque sets here in the USA or Canada, but 75% of the people at his concerts haven't heard any of them. I take it from your name and your previous comments that you seem to be a bit of a music facist. I am in the same category. Understand that you get to see Sasha and Digweed, Vasquez and Tenaglia on a semi-regular basis. They play for a specific subculture that demands freshness and creativity whenever they spin at a NYC club. Don't hold Oakenfold, Tiesto, or PvD to those standards. That isn't their purpose. I would have thought that someone as knowledgable as you would have understood this musical dynamic by now.

Oakenfold pleases the crowd, he serves his purpose well. He may "be caught in a time warp", but why the hell is freshness a prerequisite? Danny Tenaglia plays music that is months from being released, but on several occasions nearly lulled me into a deep sleep because he didn't play for the crowd.

i seem to remember a VERY similar thread not that long ago about this.. heheh... twilo never seems to stop the oakie-bashing, some of which is warranted and some of which is not. BUT! it makes for a great topic snd will always spurr on endless arguments b/e oakie fans and oakie haters!

why make such a waste of a thread? if you dont like oakenfold then why the hell do you pay to go see him? if he sux so much then dont waste your money.
ive never seen him live, but i like almost all his productions, and he ISNT god, no matter what you ADDICTS say=) hehehe... and therefor being human makes mistakes.

just me $0.02. hehe.

bullshit twilogoddess, its attitudes like yours that pollute the minds of newcomers


have you seen oakenfold live? have you?

if you have you must be on drugs..


btw.. check the age of that remix, its not 4 years old.. and its made a serious comeback this year. same with synaestasia.. its made a serious come back.

you complain about bandwagon'ing it.. your the only one bandawgon'ing it.. everyone has turned their back on oakenfold.. even though he tends to rock the house. his set at wmc was anything but commercialized, half the tracks i had never heard before and i know my music.

really, your posts piss me off. shutup bitch.

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If you were paying attention to the thread, Twilogoddess already said she had seen him live, and it's posts like yours witch show a total lack of respect that piss me off. In her defense she is only stating her opinion on Oakenfold, not calling everybody morons because they listen to him.

Personally I like his semi-older sets 98-99 but he does have a habit of playing the same tune over and over, especially his own Perfecto tunes.

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Thank U Suzaku...Londn's reply was extremely immature.

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Originally posted by londn bullshit twilogoddess, its attitudes like yours that pollute the minds of newcomers have you seen oakenfold live? have you? if you have you must be on drugs.. btw.. check the age of that remix, its not 4 years old.. and its made a serious comeback this year. same with synaestasia.. its made a serious come back. you complain about bandwagon'ing it.. your the only one bandawgon'ing it.. everyone has turned their back on oakenfold.. even though he tends to rock the house. his set at wmc was anything but commercialized, half the tracks i had never heard before and i know my music. really, your posts piss me off. shutup bitch.

Listen, Newbie I've seen him 2x & I was dead ass sober. Waste of $. Obviously U don't know ur music... he didn't play anything new at WMC, they were all popular songs that every DJ has been playing. Oakie was good back in the day....now he's lazy & just in it for the $. Y do U think he doesn't play at the Love Parade.

Twilo, I am sorry, but your accusations are very arrogant. How would you know Oakenfold is in it only for the money. How would you know this? Like I previously said, Oakenfold has stated many times that he is on a mission. He is attempting to break America of its bad musical taste. So yes, he does play the same tunes. His style may not have elvoved as fast as some other djs over the years. But your aren't taking this all in context. If you want to make it big in musical America you build recognition. Tranceport is the all-time best selling electronic album in the states. Therefore, to appeal and intice to this audience he plays safe, tranceportish tunes. I agree with you, to musical snobs like you and me Oakenfold may be a waste of money. But understand that he isn't trying to appeal to us anymore. I can sense you are really hurt by this, but cope. You have your Digweed and Sasha and I have my Steve Lawler. Move on, your just pissing people off with your agrument that doesn't equate all of the factors into the equation.

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Originally posted by DJ Guangzhou Twilo, I am sorry, but your accusations are very arrogant. How would you know Oakenfold is in it only for the money. How would you know this? Like I previously said, Oakenfold has stated many times that he is on a mission. He is attempting to break America of its bad musical taste. So yes, he does play the same tunes. His style may not have elvoved as fast as some other djs over the years. But your aren't taking this all in context. If you want to make it big in musical America you build recognition. Tranceport is the all-time best selling electronic album in the states. Therefore, to appeal and intice to this audience he plays safe, tranceportish tunes. I agree with you, to musical snobs like you and me Oakenfold may be a waste of money. But understand that he isn't trying to appeal to us anymore. I can sense you are really hurt by this, but cope. You have your Digweed and Sasha and I have my Steve Lawler. Move on, your just pissing people off with your agrument that doesn't equate all of the factors into the equation.

I'm arrogant lol Oakenfold is arrogant he said "America isn't ready for his music". Then Why are tickets to his shows so expensive? He's playing at Venues...likes he's giving a concert instead of clubs. There is a commerical for Tranceport...odd its 3 years old. This arguement has gotten lame. I'm over it.

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Originally posted by DannyLove ...He played my fav song, Solar Stone - Seven Cities (V-Ones Living Cities Mix). actually, I never heard this remix before...

*shakes head disappointingly*

damn thats an old track [still good though]

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Originally posted by DJ Guangzhou Twilo, I am sorry, but your accusations are very arrogant. How would you know Oakenfold is in it only for the money. How would you know this? Like I previously said, Oakenfold has stated many times that he is on a mission. He is attempting to break America of its bad musical taste. So yes, he does play the same tunes. His style may not have elvoved as fast as some other djs over the years. But your aren't taking this all in context. If you want to make it big in musical America you build recognition. Tranceport is the all-time best selling electronic album in the states. Therefore, to appeal and intice to this audience he plays safe, tranceportish tunes. I agree with you, to musical snobs like you and me Oakenfold may be a waste of money. But understand that he isn't trying to appeal to us anymore. I can sense you are really hurt by this, but cope. You have your Digweed and Sasha and I have my Steve Lawler. Move on, your just pissing people off with your agrument that doesn't equate all of the factors into the equation.

I'd agree with u man.The best way to get America to listen to trance is to put in the anthems...
I think that gives Oak a very valid reason to drop in the anthems frequently in US.
Well we cant rule out the fact that Oak's in it for money.I guess he's in it for money and to spread trance's popularity.

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