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Originally posted by X-Hale Fair enough, but since tiesto hasn't produced at track since 2001 leads me to think that 'tiesto being a great producer' is bull shit. Tiesto has always been one to take time over the mixes hes done. Except Gatex but he just wanted to make the original more club friendly. Its easy to see for anyone that these mixes arent tiesto, they are not tiestos style, if they were tiesto he sure as hell would've been playing them in his sets. However, they are not and although I cannot provide you with the 'proof' you should be able to notice it anyway if you open your ears like a true TA

Well I think he didn't make the remixes of Moby and St. Etienne, which we're probably talking about, to spin them in clubs or festivals. They just don't fit there. Usually he plays at 'top time', say from 2-4, so he has to spin energy and no 'sleepy' songs. He has to get the crowd moving and that won't work with the Moby remixes.

Also I find these remixes typical for his 'new' style. He said he changed direction a bit and was experimenting with producing. He even made a breakbeat remix of Elvis Presley's Burning Love.

However, I get your point and I can understand if you don't like his remixes, but I'm still saying he's not cheating on TA's by letting others make remixes for him.

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Originally posted by Djeebie Well I think he didn't make the remixes of Moby and St. Etienne, which we're probably talking about, to spin them in clubs or festivals. They just don't fit there. Usually he plays at 'top time', say from 2-4, so he has to spin energy and no 'sleepy' songs. He has to get the crowd moving and that won't work with the Moby remixes.

Mate this is Tiesto, he played 'DMB - The Space Between )Tiesto Mix)<--a sleepy tune
Peak time as his 1st tune and Talla 2XLC had just finished with 'Microbe - Xit 2 Nowhere (Mind One Mix)

So thats you're theory out of the window, Tiesto doesn't build his sets anymore, hes gone very random, and its a shame

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Originally posted by X-Hale Mate this is Tiesto, he played 'DMB - The Space Between )Tiesto Mix)<--a sleepy tune Peak time as his 1st tune and Talla 2XLC had just finished with 'Microbe - Xit 2 Nowhere (Mind One Mix) So thats you're theory out of the window, Tiesto doesn't build his sets anymore, hes gone very random, and its a shame

LOL. Well, you kinda got me there. But I still think his remix of The Space Between is kinda different from his remixes of Moby I don't know how to say it well, but The Space Between is more likely to be played in a club than e.g. We Are All Made Of Stars. It's very hard to explain. However IMO he made the remixes himself. But it's true he has trouble building his sets. Sometimes he's kinda like Johan Gielen and that's absolutely no compliment

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u guys realise Tiesto didnt remix "Nobodys Perfect" it was a bootleg done over the top of a trouser enthusiasts remix.. so the vinyl containing die another day and nobodys perfect, i hightly doubt it.

Cheers.

Nick

Thank God Oakie isnt popular, so the old 'Oakenjoke' 'he doesnt produce his own work' 'he sucks' 'lets start a flamewar' can now apply to Tiesto.

Thanks X-Hale! now only if you put that much effort into music you DO like!

As for the remix...ill still think the Deepsky remix of DAD is the best, until i hear evidence otherwise...and feel dirty for having a madonna song on my computer|

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Originally posted by kurai You better be quiet Mr. Dumonde-Fanatic just check out THEIR recent works in case you didn't notice they're getting worse and worse.

He does have a point there ste mate lol!

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Originally posted by X-Hale I thought I was in a cheesy nightclub when Tiesto played this at Gatecrasher @ NEC. Its commercial cheese wank

Too bad for you I guess

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Originally posted by X-Hale OK, but do you realise that Tiesto didn't even produce most of the remixes with his name on? His black hole studio boys do most of the remixes at his request, excluding 'Gatex' and 'Tears from The Moon' I'm tired of people giving tiesto so much credit for things he hasn't done. Also as a DJ hes become very poor, believe it or not he was my favourite DJ last year but it seems hes forgotten how to mix, and he can't even build a set properly, the structure is all over the place. +on the subject of him being a great producer he hasn't even produced a single this year?

Where you get this ? prrooooof plz !

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Originally posted by X-Hale Mate this is Tiesto, he played 'DMB - The Space Between )Tiesto Mix)<--a sleepy tune Peak time as his 1st tune and Talla 2XLC had just finished with 'Microbe - Xit 2 Nowhere (Mind One Mix)

Actually Talla 2XLC had just finished with his version of 'Can You Feel the Silence?'. Not saying I like the DMB track, I think its shit. Just letting you know what actually happened.

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Originally posted by X-Hale OK, but do you realise that Tiesto didn't even produce most of the remixes with his name on? His black hole studio boys do most of the remixes at his request, excluding 'Gatex' and 'Tears from The Moon' I'm tired of people giving tiesto so much credit for things he hasn't done. Also as a DJ hes become very poor, believe it or not he was my favourite DJ last year but it seems hes forgotten how to mix, and he can't even build a set properly, the structure is all over the place. +on the subject of him being a great producer he hasn't even produced a single this year?

Ignorance is bliss. You don't know what you're talking about. I had a lengthy conversation with Tiesto himself about this and he told me he produced by himself in 2002:
1. Paul Oakenfold-Southern Sun
2. Roc Project-Never
3. Umek-Gatex
4. Conjure One-Tears from the moon
5. Moby-Extreme Ways
6. Junkie XL-Breezer
7. Madonna-Die Another Day

and he had the major producing role in:

8. Klea-Tic Toc (Magik Muzik rmx)
9. Dreamcatcher-I don't wanna lose my way (Magik Muzik remix)

Hey, I think these are all alright, in fact, some of them are awesome.

The funniest thing is that you say you can tell these are not done by Tiesto because they are shit mixes, implying that Tiesto is indeed a good producer.

And you call Tiesto's NEC Gatecrasher set cheesy nightclub music???? I wish all cheesy nightclubs had a DJ that spun music like this. Tiesto's track selection was superb to anyone else's that night, by far.... at least from the recorded sets.

Well done DJ Pio! Finally, the tribe has spoken...

See how people here enjoy lurking here to take a piss on Tiesto and his remixes'not'being done by him and talking about incurring legal problems publishing what? Your idea of calling a Tiesto a human being driven by greed to make remixes of big name top artists?

Please...before one speaks, one thinks. But I am afraid in your very case, you have already labelled Tiesto as being an unstructured, train-wrecking DJ, money sucking remixes in your mind...

So if you have any balls at, and I mean IT, at all, take it to Tiesto himself. Publish your story here....I double dare you in fact! I am willing bet US $ 10,000 that you wouldn't dare take that side of you to even Tiesto himself as he's simply too a friendly chap to be taking pisses from you unsucessful trance DJs wannabes.

As for the 10K, I'll put up an auction UP for it on Ebay once you have your story published here...haha, let's see who getting X'ed here?

Show some balls and less of your trash talk, you double talking jive!

JKX!