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| quote: | Originally posted by halo20
The fact that you would post UN dogma answers my first question, yes you are naive.
The framework for the UN means dick. Haven't you been following the news? FACT: The UN is the U.S.A's lapdog, the day you figure that out is the day we start reasoning here.
Dude, you're confusing the argument. I love Canada, and it does a great job of peacekeeping, YES! I AGREE WITH YOU! But the politics are much more complicated than you think. I can't spend my whole night explaining 'engagements of war', just please accept the fact that just because we are in UN we are not the all mighty world security guard and neither is it. Should we increase military spending? Probably. I just said it would be cool if we didn't have to, fuck it. Let's be peaceful on our own, let's prove our pacifist nature by actually adopting that ideology and using it in that context.
So you've managed to define for me what G8 means. Wooo hoo. How does that change my opinion about military spending. Again, can I not have my own opinion. I don't get it. This board is so hardcore about forcing it's opinion on someone else. |
So I guess we should curl up in a little ball and just forget about everyone else huh?
We share this world, whether we like it or not.
I'm not trying to convince anyone here, just trying to make clear what that pacifism doesn't work for countries with leading roles such as ours.
UN Dogma? U.S. lapdog? Pfffttt... Who's being naive here?
According to you, the U.S. rules everything and nobody else has a say.
Then ask me this; why didn't the US just go ahead and attack Iraq and just say fuck the UN? I think you're jumping to the US-rules-everything- bandwagon and not seeing over the US military wall to see that there are other countries in this world with a say. Just because the US has one of the biggest militaries in the world, doesn't mean they rule the UN; that's such a short-circuit knee-jerked high school thing to conclude.
It is not a case of 'should we increase military spending'; the case is already out; we have to. (Go read a newspaper or something; there's tons of evidence over the last few years about our delapitated military).
My case hasn't been about spending for Canada as much as for others (again, I'll say it).
My suggestion is to read a book (ANY book) on leadership and servering and you'll understand what my angle is a little better.
Ignoring others while you have the cookie is not only ignorant, it's just wrong.
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Last edited by Fir3start3r on Nov-26-2002 at 12:13
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