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arctic
Teh Pwn



Registered: Oct 2002
Location: Australia

quote:
Originally posted by trance[]control-fan
you know i just DL the encoder and i made some test...OGG sounds better then mp3..i encoded a wav to 128 ogg file and encoded a 256 mp3 and the ogg sounded a little better...closer to the wav format......but i aint encoder all my shit to ogg...thinking about encoding live sets to ogg....heres the big + on .ogg..

i encode a song......
.wav file = 44.9 megs
.mp3 @ 256 = 08.1 megs
.ogg @ 128 = 03.8 megs



hmm, interesting point, but you didnt say what mp3 codec you used. You will get far better mp3's if you use LAME 3.92, VBR, alt prestet standard, with EAC , than if you use Music match jukebox, or another equally bad prog


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Daedra
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Registered: Nov 2002
Location: Los Angeles, CA

All my Music files are .ogg but as far as ogg killing mp3, I dont know but its definatly a possiblity because ogg is open-source so you dont have to worry about licensing fees like you do with mp3's. As a matter of fact Unreal Tournament 2003 uses ogg for its music files.

Old Post Dec-13-2002 03:24  United States
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eXeTik
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quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
If everyone was like you we'd still be living in caves eating raw meat...


Nicely put...

quote:
Originally posted by Nicke
that's what they said about .wma some time ago, and how many of you use .wma instead of .mp3? i don't, and i won't.


First of all- *.wma is way more populer then *.ogg
As a matter of fact, I only heared bout *.ogg a few days ago while *.wma is more populer to the scene.
In any case- the thing with *.wma is that it has a downside to it which is much higher cpu lading then mp3, that's why I was looking for downsides to *.ogg (and which to this point were reported none).

quote:
Originally posted by xtr3m
The OGG format is indeed capable of more things than mp3 and at lower size.



quote:
Originally posted by Lyst
Everyone is just do darn lazy =P

"Let's just stick to the old mp3 format, we don't want to damage our brains or something with three new letters."


quote:
Originally posted by Sundevil
Ogg is alright, but until it gets more widespread usage it's pretty worthless...


Guess it's time to spread it arround then eh?

quote:
Originally posted by trance[]control-fan
the good thing about mp3 is that there are soo many mp3 players out there..i mean portable and car mp3 player...if the start releasing ogg capable players...then its a diff story...but i like mp3..so.


Once it will catch arround they'll start making merchandise for *.ogg, just like they did when *.mp3 first caught on.

quote:
Originally posted by trance[]control-fan
you know i just DL the encoder and i made some test...OGG sounds better then mp3..i encoded a wav to 128 ogg file and encoded a 256 mp3 and the ogg sounded a little better...closer to the wav format......but i aint encoder all my shit to ogg...thinking about encoding live sets to ogg....heres the big + on .ogg..

i encode a song......
.wav file = 44.9 megs
.mp3 @ 256 = 08.1 megs
.ogg @ 128 = 03.8 megs


There goes my point, better quality, less size... just imagine live sets beeing put in this format!!


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tc-fan
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Registered: Oct 2000
Location: Cubaleah , FL USA

well i used Lame also to encode my mp3....also i think .WMA suck balls..i tried them, and it has a delay when playing them....not like mp3 where you just click and listen...also got the .ogg for winmap to play ogg files...


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tc-fan
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Registered: Oct 2000
Location: Cubaleah , FL USA

quote:
Originally posted by benfica88
Doesn't anyone remember mp4? It was just like ogg but died out a lot quicker. I had a couple of trance tacks on the format. Thought it was going to take over mp3.


it wasnt mp4 it was mp3pro....mp4 will neva come out..


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quote:
Originally posted by trance[]control-fan
also got the .ogg for winmap to play ogg files...


I have winamp V2.80 and it recodnized *.ogg files as playable audio without me installing any extra plugins on it or anything...


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quddha
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Registered: Aug 2001
Location: Toronto, Ontario

The most important thing about ogg is that it is FREE, and Fraunhofer can't charge programmers and developers for using the mp3 format. WMA is microsoft, so same story.

But of course, it will never be more popular, like how buzz will never be more popular that fruity loops, and linux will never be more popular than windows, and people will always buy computers from dell.


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jon
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Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Leeds

mp3 will always be withus, as it was the first out there and any format will be hard pressed to replace it, even if it is techinacally bettter, microsoft couldnt force wma on us with all its $$$$$$$$$.


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nekholm
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Registered: Jan 2001
Location: .fi

quote:
Originally posted by benfica88
Doesn't anyone remember mp4? It was just like ogg but died out a lot quicker. I had a couple of trance tacks on the format. Thought it was going to take over mp3.


wasn't mp4 video files?


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dj_cuba
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Registered: May 2001
Location: England, Leicester: The great cesspit of the Midlands

ogg sounds wicked! but can you make audio cd's with it?

I am also gonna buy an MP3 Discman soon and now Iam not sure whether to buy it


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tc-fan
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Registered: Oct 2000
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well i got 2.80 also and i had to install it.


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T_2199
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: An der schצnen Stadt am Main (Frankfurt)

quote:
Originally posted by dj_cuba
ogg sounds wicked! but can you make audio cd's with it?

I am also gonna buy an MP3 Discman soon and now Iam not sure whether to buy it


buy it mp3 will live for a long time!!


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