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Originally posted by Yoepus And who are you to say that our president is an ape? Remember Canadains, are shields for saddam!

Its one thing to say A person is an ape.... and its another thing, as a president, proclaiming nations as evil.... He is no more intelligent than a bonobo chimp... and im not the only one who thinks that. Do you think George Bush deserves the respect of the global intellect? It would be a sad day if he does.

How the fuck did he win the presidency

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Originally posted by Cyrus King How the fuck did he win the presidency

By cheating, of course.

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Originally posted by Cyrus King Its one thing to say A person is an ape.... and its another thing, as a president, proclaiming nations as evil.... He is no more intelligent than a bonobo chimp... and im not the only one who thinks that. Do you think George Bush deserves the respect of the global intellect? It would be a sad day if he does. How the fuck did he win the presidency

look my point was just at how dumb of an argument you made.

The USA can make a matter of chosing who is evil with a matter of opinion. I can do the exact same thing, and so can you. The government as a matter of opinion considers a certain 3 countries in this world part of an axis of evil.

They are as much free to do this, as your matter of opinion allows to call Bush a bonobo chimp, and part of an animal kingdom usually not associated with humans.

Neither case means the opinions are correct, but none the less both you and the USA government can express these opinions as they wish.

Furthermore, I believe the USA government backs up its opinion with more reasoning, logic, and proof, then your current opinion. But, well thats just my opinion.

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Originally posted by Yoepus look my point was just at how dumb of an argument you made. The USA can make a matter of chosing who is evil with a matter of opinion. I can do the exact same thing, and so can you. The government as a matter of opinion considers a certain 3 countries in this world part of an axis of evil. They are as much free to do this, as your matter of opinion allows to call Bush a bonobo chimp, and part of an animal kingdom usually not associated with humans. Neither case means the opinions are correct, but none the less both you and the USA government can express these opinions as they wish. Furthermore, I believe the USA government backs up its opinion with more reasoning, logic, and proof, then your current opinion. But, well thats just my opinion.

How can i put this in simple terms...

You president is regarded as a stupid man becuase he says stupid things like 'the axis of evil'. And you cant justify this axis of evil with "rational" explanations becuase there arent any. You just dont call nations evil!

That is why Bush is ill perceived.
And you talk as if this Axis of evil actually exists..LOOOOL

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Originally posted by Cyrus King You just dont call nations evil!

I have to agree, that was the dumb on his part..... i put my head down in shame when i heard that.

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Originally posted by Cyrus King And you talk as if this Axis of evil actually exists..LOOOOL

ROTFL HAHAHAHAHAHHA MY GOD now that you put it that way !! haahaha

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I do believe the Axis of Evil exist, for the fact that the American government, which is the world's most powerful country today, says it exists. Be this true, right or wrong, does not change the fact of the focus of the US government and its views of these countries.

I don't understand why you all seem to laugh your hearts out like doped individuals at this notion. Oh wait yes I do.

axis of evil means countries that are evil(duh) and are planning together to do evil evil things... hehehe never heard of Saddam and his crew meeting with the NK crew to take on the world... hahaha

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Originally posted by Yoepus I do believe the Axis of Evil exist, for the fact that the American government, which is the world's most powerful country today, says it exists. Be this true, right or wrong, does not change the fact of the focus of the US government and its views of these countries.

Oh yeah.. I forgot.... anything the US government says is the truth..Duh.. im so stupid..

From now on.. i will beleive everything george bush says... becuase he's not evil.. he is smart....YAAAAAAAAAAAAY


For gods sake Yeopus... read what you just wrote!

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Originally posted by Cyrus King Oh yeah.. I forgot.... anything the US government says is the truth..Duh.. im so stupid.. From now on.. i will beleive everything george bush says... becuase he's not evil.. he is smart....YAAAAAAAAAAAAY For gods sake Yeopus... read what you just wrote!

Sorry, I think you and ahlamalek are right here I didn't state my point exactly as I meant it:

What I was getting to that the axis of evil is a fact. Its a fact because it was created by the US government, and if its wrong, right, or what not, its still a fact and attitude created by the US government.

Furthermore I personally believe it is also true. These three nations do co-operate in many ways, altough I wouldn't consider it a strong and hardend alliance between the three parties. Yet Iraq and Iran both directly support terrorists and co-operate with each other to this end. And North Korea further is helping both Iraq and Iran in their pursuit for their own nuclear weapons, and sells them also conventional arms as well. My last point is not based on any hard evidence, and therefore can be called a conspiracy. But I think it is this conspiracy that the US government also believes.

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Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0 Now about history of Iran and Iraq...Why did it started? Well, in 1953 Iranian shah (i don't know what's the english term for it, but the original term sounds like this) with help from CIA has overthrown Mossadeghs nationalist regime. They did it because Mossadegh nationalised British Petroleum company in Iran. As shah was supported by british and american secret services, he repayed that debt by giving the US and Britain exclusive rights for it's oil. Well, Iran started to get a lot of money from this oil, and decidet to turn to nuclear energy. There was a plan of making 20 reactors by 1995, which would make Iran almost completely independent of it's oil. Iran was very serious about it and already had contracts with the european manufacturers of nuclear reactors. Pakistan at that time also tried to turn to nuclear energy, but CIA started a revolution there which led to the hanging of Bhutto, the leader of Pakistan at that time. The US wasn't happy about it at all, of course.Also at that time, the british wanted Iran to sign an agreement that for the next 25 years, Britain would be the only country to get their oil. Iran, ofcourse wanted to export oil not only to US and Britain, but to other european countries as well. The british then started to buy less oil than Iran manufactured, and that in turn started an economic crisis in iran. Radical islamic elements with support from CIA started to bring unrest in the country. At the same time they talked shah into being more represive of the people, which made more and more people angry. The result was an islamic revolution in 1978, whose fundamentalist leader Homeini were unable to continue the nuclear program. Oil prices skyrocketed and brought many countries on the verge of being bankrupt. The reason for this was to stop the world toward progressing to nuclear energy, which would make them independent on the US and Britain controlled oil reserves. Additionaly at that same time a nuclear incident in Harrisburg appeared, and the report about it on 3.8.1973 stated sabotage or intentional carelessness as the reasons of the accident.

wooooooooooow great info M8,even I didnt know about some of that stuff!!thanks for the great info

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Originally posted by Yoepus Furthermore I personally believe it is also true. These three nations do co-operate in many ways, altough I wouldn't consider it a strong and hardend alliance between the three parties. Yet Iraq and Iran both directly support terrorists and co-operate with each other to this end. And North Korea further is helping both Iraq and Iran in their pursuit for their own nuclear weapons, and sells them also conventional arms as well. My last point is not based on any hard evidence, and therefore can be called a conspiracy. But I think it is this conspiracy that the US government also believes.

mmmm I wonder when will Fu#$% Bush come after Iran??.I know we are next, it is so abvious.I swear to god I will go back to Iran and defend my counrty.mmm I wonder what will their excuse is gonna be to attack us??WOMD??terrorism??threat to Isreal or American people??
mmmm oh wait how come Isreal can have all these fancy weapons to attack the Palastinians??self defence??ya right,I will never believe that!!
arent they breaking the law??
why cant UN go to Isreal for inspection huh??ooooh wait because they are no threat to the Us??ooh but if they are threats to to the Arab world thats fine.

I relly cant take this shit, it is time for the world to wake up and see whats going on,and do something before Bush destroys the whole world.