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Originally posted by PaRaNoIk0 1. this thread is gay

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Originally posted by PaRaNoIk0 5. why don't we all just stfu and go listen to some track we like, or watch some porn?

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Originally posted by dJohn Fourth, I have no disrespect for any one of these DJs. I praise them for their hard work and where they have reached because of their work ethic. They certainly do earn their rights as superstars, but to idolize them as gods and to hear the same shit: "...Armin is GOD! Tiesto is GOD! Ferry Corsten is totally awesome!..." when they've done nothing superbly innovative other than spin anthems after another, kinda gets to you...yeah, occasionally the'll spit out good tunes, but when tunes like Solstice and Yet Another Day get praise as tunes of the year, you start wondering...especially being an amateur, you wonder why how they can get away by playing overplayed tunes, and your mix tapes can't get even one response when they show far more creativity and talent then some of these so called "DJs"...I've heard some of these tunes and mixes, and there's alot more hidden gold on this board alone then the "masters" we tend to lose ourselves in.

haha man i was wondering why you were talking all this crap about armin....it's just because you arent respected as a dj and people say you're crap isnt it.



sorry i just had to put that....

Dj John is only stating his opinion, I mean flameing ppl for their opinion is very iggnorant and immature I cudnt give a rats arse wot he thinks about Armin, coz in turn thats different from wot i think of Armin.

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Top Atm:
Activa - Perception (Original Mix)
Coast 2 Coast - Cut Me
Icaria - Onwards (Original Mix)
Hiroyuki Oda - Transmigration
Shadowrider - Blue Horizon (Luke Terry Remix)

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What do you put into your live sets that has made you a dancefloor favorite for the past decade?

"I’m a dance floor favorite? Great! I would say the passion that I feel for the music I buy and the honesty with how I play it. I play the records I love not the ones that simply work. I’ve never taken the easy music option (which would make me a lot more money by the way) but chosen to push people a little. I try to draw people in a new direction slightly and expand their taste a little more than other DJ’s." - Lee Burridge

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Originally posted by dJohn Ok. First off, there's no need to call each other names here. I just stated my opinion. If that offends you(and you know who I'm talking about) then that's your loss. In this so called community, I merely stated what I thought. If that's a crime, then boo hoo. Go cry somewhere else. Second, I never, ever criticized other people's OPINIONS...debating whether AvB is commercial or not is based on hard facts, not tastes. I merely stated what I believe to be true.And yes, whether you like it or not, in the world of electronica and trance, he is about as commercial as Nelly is in rap and radio hip hop. Third, my point on his ASOT Top 20 is self explained...he plays the Top 20 most popular tunes not the top 20 most stand out, innovative or whatever tunes. POPULAR. And to me, to hear people say that AvB isn't commercial and to see him doing shit like Top 20 is kinda...dumb. I don't understand how you see something that's right in front of your eyes, and deny it. Again, facts, not opinions. Fourth, I have no disrespect for any one of these DJs. I praise them for their hard work and where they have reached because of their work ethic. They certainly do earn their rights as superstars, but to idolize them as gods and to hear the same shit: "...Armin is GOD! Tiesto is GOD! Ferry Corsten is totally awesome!..." when they've done nothing superbly innovative other than spin anthems after another, kinda gets to you...yeah, occasionally the'll spit out good tunes, but when tunes like Solstice and Yet Another Day get praise as tunes of the year, you start wondering...especially being an amateur, you wonder why how they can get away by playing overplayed tunes, and your mix tapes can't get even one response when they show far more creativity and talent then some of these so called "DJs"...I've heard some of these tunes and mixes, and there's alot more hidden gold on this board alone then the "masters" we tend to lose ourselves in. Again, I said it before and said it again, but I don't mean to offend any body for anymatter...it's opinions that make us who we are. I'll say this too...I love trance...all kindsa trance, and I have much love and respect for the DJs that we are squabbling over about. But when you see a trend as obvious as a sun in the dark, and people mindlessly follow it, you distance yourself from everything and look at the picture and come to a conclusion. The reason why you people see me as trying to be "all that" is merely because I don't follow the euro trance trend...I choose to isolate my self, and it's a bad and good thing at the same time. And that's all I did. Distance, look, and come to a conclusion. I guess you people don't see it that way, and I'm sorry about that, but that's just what I did. Happy New Years.

you, my friend, are so full of bullshit it makes me wonder why we have people like you in this world.

These producers are the ones that made and makes trance the way it is...they deserve all the credit and attention in the world. without ferry corsten, armin, pvd, the whole lot where would trance be today?who tah fuck cares if they get more attention than some amateur..that life. on a side note a life is something you need to get.

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Wow. I didn't think I'd get this many more replies. I thought you people would not give a shit and stop replying.
Again, I'm not gonna spit anything out anymore, so believe whatever you want. I'm not jealous of these DJs, nor do I hate em, as I said. I just don't understand why you people fall to your knees at the names of these people.
And yes, these people give trance the name it is...repetitive, overused schlock that we have been molded to hearing.

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haha man i was wondering why you were talking all this crap about armin....it's just because you arent respected as a dj and people say you're crap isnt it.

I can give a shit about what people think of me. As you can see, I'm replying to your post, so that should give you a good indication of what I think of other people's opinions about me, just like you give a shit about mine. That must be it...I'm jealous of Armin because he deserves where he is reaching a god status in some countries and I'm not because..yes, awesome logic.

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Blalblalbalblalba!

But you do to make some useless responses like this.

I'm not gonna go on anymore with this thread, so go ahead and say what you have to say. All I know is that I hold my ground with what I think, whther you like it or not(and apparantly you don't... judging from the number and tones of your responses)

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2. why in hell would people write 20 lines comments about a music chart on the radio? is it that important to you?

Because I'm just trying to justify what I said, and people apparantly have no conception of that. Therefore, we are where we at right now, with about 97% of this board having a ransom on my head.

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makes me wonder why we have people like you in this world.

Wow. Thanks. I guess people who try to state their opinion shouldn't deserve to live. How reassuring...a fellow TA(keyword: fellow in this community called 'trance addicts') does not want me to exist anymore. Better watch out y'all...you might get a death penalty next time you try to say something you think is right.

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5. why don't we all just stfu and go listen to some track we like, or watch some porn?

I think I've justified myself in a fair and logical way, and for those of you hypocrits who call me childish and illogical while you 'reply' to this 'shit' take your time to care what I think(when you say you don't), that's what I'm gonna do...shut the fuck up, and go do what I like.
See you around.
BTW: Funny pcitures! I'm serious too.

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Originally posted by MoonMan Dj John is only stating his opinion, I mean flameing ppl for their opinion is very iggnorant and immature

Well isn't that odd, I said the exact same thing to you before

Some people may think about trance to much. Just listen to the music There's nothing we can do about the trance
industry.

DjJohn, these dj's are huge because they got a break somwhere a long the lines in their career, just wait and you may get yours.

I'm sure we'd all listen to the non "commercial" trance out there if we could but where is it? I'm sure there is a lot of other good tracks and producers out there that aren't big but we, the listener, have no way of hearing these tunes besides the internet of course.

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Top 5 ATM
1) 16 Bit Lolitas - Nobody Seems To Care
2) Roger Martinez - Kaleidoscopic
3) Ormatie - She Very
4) 16 Bit Lolitas - Murder Weapon
5) Alex Dolby - Cairo

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Originally posted by tranceman78 So, do you think people should have opinions or not?!? If everyone is entitled to an opinion that what gives you the authority to call someone else's opinion "ridiculous." I don't understand the point of your post. Are you trying to stop people from posting these threads, because if you are, you're wasting your time. Why don't you just take a chill pill and realize that people are not always going to agree with everyone else and their is nothing you can do about it. Besides, why post a stupid thread about stupid threads? Two wrongs don't make a right.

everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but when they know little or nothing about the subject at hand, then their opinion doesnt mean shit, and i think a lot of peoples opinions around here dont mean shit (as far as i am concerned with getting mad and what not), but thats just my opinion

okay...why dont you just STOP LISTENING TO IT IF YOU THINK TRANCE IS REPETITIVE OVERUSED SCHLOCK...you basically think we're brainwashed by people like PVD ferry corsten in order to believe that the shit they produce is the only good stuff out there?

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Originally posted by TuanAnh213 okay...why dont you just STOP LISTENING TO IT IF YOU THINK TRANCE IS REPETITIVE OVERUSED SCHLOCK...you basically think we're brainwashed by people like PVD ferry corsten in order to believe that the shit they produce is the only good stuff out there?

not really. there are a lot more good songs out there than they cant/dont have time to play. only way to find them is by searching or recommendation, or going to a vinyl shop and listening to all the new records

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Originally posted by dJohn Please, listening to trance is not about thinking about what other people think, it's thinking about what YOU, yourself think...it's a personal experience that not alot of us fully enjoy and understand, unfortunatley.

UUUMMMM..."IF" it is a "personal experience" (which i think it is) then why bring up the fact that certain DJs play for the "masses" and are "commercial"???

If LIKE YO SAID it is personal...then how can u say that someone can not think AVBs ASOT is good music?...if it is personal?

i think the quote you contradict yourself...and personaly think your a fucking moron......stop caring what others think or say and listen to what u like....i mean Christ who really gives a fuck....

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Bring back 1994 NYC clubbing nights, cus the sh*t today is filled with junk parties and DJs that play sh*t House.....Zabiela, Sander, or Howells and all the rest suck and couldnt throw a night like it was in the early 90s in NYC!!!...Screw Twilo - give me Limelight circa 1993!!!