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Endlesswave
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Registered: Sep 2001
Location: Thornhill (Ontario)

Fine I will ask a mod to remove the thread. My beef is why is it posted in this specific forum to begin with? It shouldn't be and should be put in the politics forum. Just as someone would get annoyed if someone asks "Where can I a certain type of vinyl?" in the funny/comedy forum instead of using the dj/producing forum. It's not THAT huge a deal but mildly annoying.


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malek
drinks your milkshake!



Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Montréal

putain de merde je comprends plus rien a ces fous. un certain TA envoi en enfer tous les arabes et les musulmans avec des propos inacceptable ici tant qu'ailleurs et tous ces reply ne font que divertir l'attention sur le sujet principal qu'est le racisme!!!

pas un parmi ces enculés n'as dénoncé les remarques les jugeant inacceptables ou quoi que ce soit, et ca n'as rien a voir avec la politique.

Est-on rendu à un point tel d'ignorance et d'egocentrisme dans ce pays que si ça nous affecte pas directement et bien tant pis? Je crois bien que oui et c'est dommage.

ça fait peur


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hardcore trancer
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Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Toronto,Canada

quote:
Originally posted by ahlamalek
putain de merde je comprends plus rien a ces fous. un certain TA envoi en enfer tous les arabes et les musulmans avec des propos inacceptable ici tant qu'ailleurs et tous ces reply ne font que divertir l'attention sur le sujet principal qu'est le racisme!!!

pas un parmi ces enculés n'as dénoncé les remarques les jugeant inacceptables ou quoi que ce soit, et ca n'as rien a voir avec la politique.

Est-on rendu à un point tel d'ignorance et d'egocentrisme dans ce pays que si ça nous affecte pas directement et bien tant pis? Je crois bien que oui et c'est dommage.

ça fait peur


can u write this in english please??I dont speak french

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dEsidEL
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Registered: Aug 2000
Location: Below the Belt
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i don't speak French either .. but i get the feeling that if whatever he wrote was translated into English , it might cause further flamming..

here's my bit on the whole issue:

yes it's sad that guy had to say all that stuff.. but what's SADDER is how what he has said has caused people within TA to start flamming and hating each other just because of the stance that each person has on the whole issue. i'm not trying to take sides here , but i think everyone should just stop and look at what's happened here..


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rabbitjoker
aural sadist



Registered: Aug 2002
Location: Toronto, ON, CANADA

quote:
Originally posted by ahlamalek
putain de merde je comprends plus rien a ces fous. un certain TA envoi en enfer tous les arabes et les musulmans avec des propos inacceptable ici tant qu'ailleurs et tous ces reply ne font que divertir l'attention sur le sujet principal qu'est le racisme!!!

pas un parmi ces enculés n'as dénoncé les remarques les jugeant inacceptables ou quoi que ce soit, et ca n'as rien a voir avec la politique.

Est-on rendu à un point tel d'ignorance et d'egocentrisme dans ce pays que si ça nous affecte pas directement et bien tant pis? Je crois bien que oui et c'est dommage.

ça fait peur


I'm back due to a whole bunch [10+] PMs, which I guess would be considered popular demand... Look out!!

You must feel very inteligent posting in an english forum in frech [considering you've already proved you speak english perfectly].. I'm not sure if you reasons, but it can only be to further otrasize yourself.

Here is the english translation (thanks to systran - it may not be perfect):

whore of shit!! I understand more [than] anything these insane [comments]. A certain TA [is] sending in hell [to] all Arabic and the Moslems with unacceptable remarks here as long as elsewhere and all these reply do nothing but divert the attention on the principal subject which is racism!!!

One among these, not fucked up the ass, did not denounce the remarks.
Them considering anything unacceptable, and it does not have anything to do with politics.

Is one returned at a point such of ignorance and egocentrism in this
country that if that does not affect to us directly and well so much
worse? I believe well that yes and it is a pity.

that made fear...

----end translation [exuse the errors, I'm not a french major, nor is systran always accurate].

Fear and insults will not keep me away from TA. My TA friends are way more valuable than any insults thrown at me.

If a man slap you on the face, turn cheek and let him slap you on the other.... - Sound familiar? Maybe not...

This topic is interesting, just take it out of the Toronto forums - I'm sure there is enough support for it to be moved - I for one have already emailed the mods.

TA - I am BACK!!!! (straight out of a horror movie)


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rabbitjoker
aural sadist



Registered: Aug 2002
Location: Toronto, ON, CANADA

quote:
Originally posted by Cyrus King
if you dont want to read it...LEAVE THE THREAD IF IT BOTHERS YOU THAT MUCH.


Funny how this was the same explanation given to Germans in 1938 regarding the anti-semitism...... If you don't like the Nazi party views, leave Germany, which my great-grandparents did, amongst many others!

I wouldn't agree with that excuse now, or then... Move it to the proper forum, stop the hate, insults... That's all we're asking.

quote:
Originally posted by Cyrus King
Ask the mods to move it.


It's already been done, by a number of people, and I'm sure more will do it....


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Old Post Jan-05-2003 09:26  Canada
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malek
drinks your milkshake!



Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Montréal

hahaha man that was a funny translation.

english is my third language and some things i just cannot put into words proprely in english.

what i wrote is that that thread was about racism which is something not really politic. no one discuss the subject but only hoarse around and talk about anything but the subject. then people say they don't care and don't want to see it there because they have their own motive, still rare the ones who really condemned those remarks.

anyways man, like desidel said it is very sad to have come to this point where people just flammed each other instead as sticking together.

*ignoring the forums for a week*


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rabbitjoker
aural sadist



Registered: Aug 2002
Location: Toronto, ON, CANADA

quote:
Originally posted by ahlamalek
hahaha man that was a funny translation.

english is my third language and some things i just cannot put into words proprely in english.

what i wrote is that that thread was about racism which is something not really politic. no one discuss the subject but only hoarse around and talk about anything but the subject. then people say they don't care and don't want to see it there because they have their own motive, still rare the ones who really condemned those remarks.

anyways man, like desidel said it is very sad to have come to this point where people just flammed each other instead as sticking together.

*ignoring the forums for a week*


Dude, we all just have to agree to a few things:

1) Racism and improper judgement (of any kind) is wrong and should not be tollerated

2) This forum is for people who love the same thing [trance] and want to embrace each other in the joy of trance

3) We all want to be happy, meet and share amazing expiriences that trance brings us

4) The TO forum is specifically for that - discuss TO trance activities, ect.. Other forums are for selling vinyl and discussing politics

5) Violence, hatred and insults are wrong... Lets love, not fight.... Trance has brought us this close, lets not harsh words move us apart

The TO TA people are one of the most close-knit groups I've ever met - lets keep it that way.

If PLUR means anything, let it mean it's most now... Lets end this thread, move it to politics and everybody give each other a big HUG when we meet next...

I don't like being branded something I'm not - it hurts, but after a few hours of thinking, it would hurt more to not have my TA friends..


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Old Post Jan-05-2003 09:40  Canada
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Ckerr812
Wallet inspector



Registered: Dec 2000
Location: The Matrix

To make a point ot this thread,

Living in a free country brings many responsiblities, one of them is respecting other peoples opinions because anyone can give them.

It's one thing to debate something, it's another, when the banter just devolves to childlike name calling on the playground.

When a mans/womens intellectual peak on a conversation has been reached, they eithier A) Start to name call, in an attempt make themselves feal better.
B) Just leave.

Sadly enough, we have only seen the first option, it's better to educate Malik Mike then to sink to the same level, which has been done here.

You can always tell a person is blinded by there hatred if they will not see the other persons point of view they are arguing with.

I applaud Rabbitjoker for his previous post, that is truely what I mean when I say you can only fight Darkness with Light. You fight fire with fire, and you share the same fate.

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E*Master
Retro*Master



Registered: May 2002
Location: Etobicoke, Ontario Canada

quote:
Originally posted by rabbitjoker

If PLUR means anything, let it mean it's most now... Lets end this thread, move it to politics and everybody give each other a big HUG when we meet next...



You gotta Love this guy


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TheDemon
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Registered: Aug 2002
Location: Dark Sector World!
Re: Re: Melek Mike must make a formal Appology.

quote:
Originally posted by rabbitjoker
YAWN!!!

Enough of this already... Take it to the political forum.. Many [in the Toronto forum] are bored of this ranting and raving by both sides.

Display some executive maturity and understand where this type of discussion should be - becuase the TO forum is not it [not the discussion isn't valid - it is - just not here].

Toronto forum is about love and getting together for a good time (and forgetting about our differences, even if for just one party].


Oh piss off, Iam trying to tell the guy to make an apology. Not state political ideas. Maybe you don't care about his comments, but some of us do. Plz don't reply to this thread if you aren't going to say anthing positive. Man, whats your problem?


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TheDemon
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Registered: Aug 2002
Location: Dark Sector World!

quote:
Originally posted by The Highroller
you're right. he better not have been talking to you. RJ is one of the kindest accomidating, and friendly people i have ever met. this guy barely knows me and he s vouched for me at clubs, driven me home, and done several other favours for me. he is a very nice person to be around. dont ever compare him to someone as racist as melech_mike.

he is right. even though it is a valid debate i dont want to read it so take it some where else. i do not appreciate your comments toward RJ.

and if you werent talking to him then disregard this post


THIS IS NOT A DAMN DEBATE, THIS THREAD IS TO BRING ATTENTION TO MELEK MIKE AND FORCE HIM TO APOLOGIZE. GUYS, YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND ENGLISH?READ WHAT I POSTED. THERE IS NO DEBATE ON THIS THREAD. ONLY TO VOICE CONCERN OVER MELEK MIKE AND HIS COMMENTS. COME ON GUYS, THIS IS REALLY RIDICULOUS.


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