trance is always misunderstood as a boring 1 beat music...
why people is listening is that it is fast,catchy and following the trend.
to me,trance is always sacred to tranceaddictS!

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the problem is most of you take music too seriously
(no wonder with all the cliched addiction/lifestyle electronica quotes that go around)

be cool muthafucka's, listen to what's good.

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Originally posted by sifntj0r the problem is most of you take music too seriously (no wonder with all the cliched addiction/lifestyle electronica quotes that go around) be cool muthafucka's, listen to what's good.

Hehehe, I like this guy

The problem with people who are visiting parties just to be trendy is that they're gonna become influence which will want more commercial tunes, and that in turn will make it seem like the general trance population wants to hear more commercial tunes.
Besides, those guys are generally dumbasses going there just to fight or get high or get girls or any combination of those.
On the other hand, trance being commercial may attract more people to the scene. I myself started listening trance by first listening to commercial stuff, than eurodance, and slowly moved to trance. Mainly because I listened to what was available.
So there are both pros and cons of the commercialization...
I do hope that the scene will split in two, commercial trance and real trance, so that the commercial trance will become available to everyone, for those who really like it, there will always be real trance, with good crowd, and for those who don't they won't go to real trance parties, but will stay with commercial stuff.

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Okay...here we go...ANOTHER thread abuot how trance has become commercialized. Some people think it is, some people think it's not. But there's nothign we can do about it either way!If DJs truly like the music, they'll be true to their fans, and true to what they've done in the past. And why not let i become commercialized?? Maybe it'll let more people enjoy it. And what's wrong with that? Sorry, you can't all keep it underground and solely to yourselves. people find out about pretty much everything, eventually. Ans who knows> maybe, with more fans, the music may become better. More competitions among DJs may produce more music in the long run! And JUST because it becmone "commercialzed" doesn't necessarily mean that the music become cheesy and such! There's already producers and DJs that want money and cater to whoever will give them the most. Thats a given. You all label anything slightly "cheesy" as "commercialized", but we couldn't even all agree on what cheesy MEANS!

Come on, get over it. Nothing you can do about people finding out about trance. And if you ask me, I think maybe it'll be a good thing!

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Originally posted by mndeg uh, classical music requires an attention span.

So does your average 9-minute tune, especially when you have to wait 2-3 minutes for the synths (if any) to come in.

Anyway, thanks to all who replied, seems that if anything, the scene will split in two, and that's fine by me. I'm at peace now

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this commercialisation argument again.. hehe.. i dont think trance is any more commercial now than it was 3 years ago. yes, theres ppl like dj sammy, ian van dahl, scooter etc, who all put a bad name on trance due to its shiteness, but at the same time this counteracts commercialisation because maybe the ppl u r scared of dont ever listen to REAL trance. REAL trance is still on the underground, still being playing where it matters by the people that matter. and thats all that matters

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Originally posted by TiestoInTheMix i guess it does have something to do with self-image. how many of us want to be associated with the stereotype of the close-minded and ignorant progressive fans?

where did you get this "stereotype" of a progressive listener? progressive is all about acceptance, open-mindednes, and integrating fresh sounds and influences. wow, you talk about the mainstream messing things up, but what does it show when one of "our own" is talking so much out his ass?

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Originally posted by Maxim303 where did you get this "stereotype" of a progressive listener? progressive is all about acceptance, open-mindednes, and integrating fresh sounds and influences. wow, you talk about the mainstream messing things up, but what does it show when one of "our own" is talking so much out his ass?

see, i knew we could have an intelligent discussion for at least 2 pages until someone came and started throwing personal insults.

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I don't know why but lots of ppl who listen to "progressive" are acting really ignorant and narrow minded. It's pretty sad. Juz' ignore em and listen to the kind of music u enjoy!

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Now what I hate is when prog/house fans say "all trance is a commercial piece of shite". It's not. Simple. There is good and bad trance. As there is good and bad house.

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I think your friend is a wanker, typical progressive fan sadly, just cos they listen to that they believe that they're a level above us just because we don't, but we don't have to listen to what they say, and its bollocks thinking that u do, just tell them to stfu cos it's not a view a lot of us share

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5. The reason I find progheads abnoxious is because they think that the rest of music is "cheese"... Progheads, perhaps you can clear it up for me - what kind of shit you're on when you listen to 8 hours of John Dickweed??? I find him unbearable... he's a total bore, totaly uncommunicative with a crowd, with tracks that.... hell, I can't even explain it... I love a prog track here and there but for crying out loud - unless you're waisted on some wacked up shit, I can't imagine listening to this shit for more than 15minutes.

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I'm not going to argue with you about progressive music, because from what I see, you're as closed-minded to progressive as some progressive people are to trance. I love both, and the lack of respect in these forums saddens me

there. a random collection of quotes that shows that there's some form of a close-minded progressive fan stereotype floating around. sure, you might be offended by it. i'm not. i listen to prog as much as i listen to trance and i don't take any of these stereotypes personally, nor do i have anything against prog fans, for i am one.

now, i really didn't want this to become a flame thread or anything...

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i think commercialization of trance has the potential to be a great thing...
people who listen to cheese trance and actually enjoy it will try to search for trance with more substance to it...
let's put it this way...
what is the first dance/trance/house track you've ever listened to?
chances are, it was probably cheese... and you probably liked it so much that you decided to search for something more to trance... and that's probably what brought so many of you guys to the underground trance scene...

the thing is there will always be a loyal group of underground fans and DJ's to keep the underground scene going...

just look at hip hop, even though there's so much of the "Nelly" and "Eminem" stuff going on, there is still a loyal group of underground hip-hop fans and DJ's that hate all the commercialized rap...

if you don't like trance being commercialized, then fine... don't listen to it... stick with what you like and let the 12 year old teenage girls listen to DJ Sammy and Alice Deejay...

and finally, be tolerant to other people and their musical tastes... too many times i've seen on TA people mouthing off others who like different musical tastes... hate the music, not the people...

The way I see all this "commericialization" business is... known DJ's like Paul Oakenfold, Tiesto, PvD are pushing the Electronica ballot forward to all music listeners and they are giving Electronica a chance. Of the 100 or so times Ive been asked "what kinda music do you listen to" 80% of the time no one knows what Progressive House is and 50% dont know what Trance is. But when you beat a drum long and loud and enough like the Pvd Tiesto and Oakie have been doing, people start to hear it and either come around it and join in on the firedance or tell you to stfu, these days theyre joining. Electronica is simply evolving into a popular genre, its about moving forward isnt it? We are moving forward so it only fits and is inevitable for Electronica to become more commercial. When you have Deep Dish being asked to remix Madonna and Justin Timberlake...its Electronica moving forward. So I dont get all the debate about it, Electronica producers are the most underpaid in the business...its just time that more ears are tuning in and respect and recognition is finally being given.

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