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hooj1
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Depends on the tracks you're mixing. I found it also depends on the mixer you are using. Some mixers have different eq curves...umm yep thats all I have to say bout' that


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Paolo Fox
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this is a great thread. wish there were more like this. all of the above methods are great. use them all and practise them all. then when you become comforatable with all of them you will know which ones you want to use by "feel."

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Zild
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Some of the best transitions I've done have been without even touching any of the EQs.


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Clovis
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LMAO @ this thread

#110 on the DJ mag poll asking how to change basslines...


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Talk about a thread from the dead!!!

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esselfortium
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Talk about a thread from the dead!!!


Heh. I didn't even notice that. I'm glad it got revived, though, or I never would have seen it. Very useful info


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Benjamin DuBose
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Registered: Oct 2004
Location: Houston, Tx

when i am switching bass lines i have channel A playing at full volume. channel B the qued song. i will hip play on a clash let it play out for 8 bars and then on the next clash i will put the song in at full volume but with no bass. then at 4 bars i will turn the bass up on track B a quater turn so that it is just barley noticable. then in 4 more bars i will switch positions by turning track B a quater turn up so its now at 0 db and turn track A down a quater turn, but not all the way. just enough that u can barley hear it. then i will work it down from there how ever the song calls for.


i have found when i am mixing that if you just swap them over at one time that it kills the energy, or less you mix at the very end and very begining of a track witch kills the energy also. so this is how i do it hope it made since.

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DOOMBOT
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For the smooth and not so sudden bass swaps bring in the bass from the incoming track a little. And as you bring it in, reduce the bass from the live track a little. Do this slightly every 4 or 8 beats and when you are finally ready to bring the bass from the incoming track in full, it should just be a minor adjustment on the EQ. Only works on some transitions because sometimes bass from 2 songs clash and cancel eachother out. So it all simply comes down to knowing your tunes.

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Nemesis44
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Registered: Aug 2003
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Nem has a different way of looking at this...

The power and punch, for sure comes from bassline swaps.

However the majority of the other mixes in terms of smooth transitions is not decided by how you work the EQs alone.

Your greatest aly appart from the bass EQ is the GAIN. When mixing in tracks that are to be smooth transistions I usually start with the Gain down low, then use that to bring in the incoming track to a level that can be heard but does not overpower and create that 'deafening' mix effect as some DJs do. You should be working the gains hard and discover the best way to use them as it will open up your DJing in lots of ways.

Treble and mid can be used to make a distinctive riff or melody cut through as the intro to a new track or as a reminder of what has just been happening.

For the most part I use the channel faders almost like on/off switches and as stated let the gains decide what is actually going on in terms of loudness.

I never use the crossfader unless scratching. (Which I don't do very often anyway).

I tend not to use the Mid so much as the very nature of it tends to suck the life out of a lot of tracks and can give you a very funny sounding mix. Mid range is the least user friendly so use sparingly and wisely.

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OutofAnalog
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i think a lot of it has to do with the natural progression of the song. you want to wait until the basslines starts to drop out into just drums and precussion. i will usually bring my next track in with the bass cut almost all of the way out so i can bring in the percussion and mid frequency. getting the bass in on the new track has a lot to do with timing of the previous track. generally i'll start to drop the bass from the new song while pulling back the existing kick after the actual bassline dropped out. you can slowly pull the bass over by bumping it every 16 to 32 beats. sometimes you can just line up your highs and just switch the bass over. depends on the mix. having 2 bass lines going at once often sounds contentious... anyways the best way is to just practice and see what works..

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Nemesis44
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Registered: Aug 2003
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He he, I probably answered this the first time round... hope I didn't contradict myself he he.

Cheers
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