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Originally posted by Hydarnes Actually, it's amusing how no one criticizes Fragma for borrowing Coco's vocal melody and incorporating it into "Toca Me"

actually they didn't do it, it was originally bootleg mashup done by some random bloke, the gimps at positiva heard the mashup and then cleared it due to the fact that coco's i need a miracle was a positiva track too and then it became one of the most annoying tracks of 2000

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My comment on Fragma's talent has little to do with "Man in the Moon", but rather some of their other productions.

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They didn't just sample it, they used the entire melody as the foundation for the tune,

ROFL! If you've ever listened to Cafe Del Mar you might notice that the entire melody is merely a prodigy of an extremely short synth tune repeated over and over, so little merit is in such a contention.

As for the song finding itself the victim of multitudinous remixes, "Man in the Moon" is splendidly unique in the fact that it has added vocals, something which IMHO makes the song superior and more diverse than the original.

The real issue here is prejudice for the original song, not rational assessment.

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Originally posted by montana actually they didn't do it, it was originally bootleg mashup done by some random bloke, the gimps at positiva heard the mashup and then cleared it due to the fact that coco's i need a miracle was a positiva track too and then it became one of the most annoying tracks of 2000

My point was that the vocal melody was not originally Fragma's, nothing more.

And yes, I agree, that was Fragma's worst track and it boggles me how it could ever become their most popular song.

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Originally posted by Hydarnes The vocals sound absolutely divine and it pulls you right in, trust me!

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Nevertheless, the song shines as one of the best from Fragma (courtesy of Damae's vocals)!

Well, I guess that says something about the quality of Fragma's work if not anything else.

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I said that primarily because of the vocal melody. I would have preferred if they didn't sample from cafe del mar, but they did, and I'm not going to fuss over it.

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Originally posted by Hydarnes I said that primarily because of the vocal melody. I would have preferred if they didn't sample from cafe del mar, but they did, and I'm not going to fuss over it.

What other artists do you like?

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Originally posted by Hydarnes ROFL! If you've ever listened to Cafe Del Mar you might notice that the entire melody is merely a prodigy of an extremely short synth tune repeated over and over, so little merit is in such a contention.

That has nothing to do with my arguement. Sorry, but your favourite group stole one of the most obvious trance tunes ever and turned it into vocal chart fodder. If this is your idea of talent I pity you. And this comes from someone who doesn't even care much for Cafe Del Mar in the first place.

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Haha, eww, we're from the same state.

an instrumental would suffice as a nice rework


remix.. hardly though

nice touch with the kick in synth hit

vocals are comparable to that of any above and beyond song you can sing with your satellite and gaze on the man in the moon






ive enjoyed fragma - everytime you need me as well

it was a nice tune.. fragma clearly has talent.. but i guess their catch is mainly their female vocals..

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Originally posted by starglider What other artists do you like?

My fav euro/vocal trance artists are:

OceanLab
Fragma
Rimini Project

I hope you can find it in yourself to at least show respect for OceanLab.

rimini project - sounds good

Yes, Classic Rimini style! Great tune, and one of their best! Atmospheric and catchy !