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Originally posted by Orbax i very much doubt that actually happened. do you have any idea of the millions of people in america wearing those? im guessing it was made up to create a sense of outrage...

i agree 1,000,000,000% i very rarely trust or believe the media. they can EASILY fabricate lies or over-exagerate the truth in order to make a story fit the image they want to give off. unless i myself witness this happen, i will not believe a damn word of it. he was probably wearing a shirt that said "fuck the police... then we'll have peace"...

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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike Blatently gonna wear my "Fuck America" t-shirt when i come to the states this/next year. Cocks

get me an extra one

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Downs is the director of the Albany Office of the state Commission on Judicial Conduct, which investigates complaints of misconduct against judges and can admonish, censure or remove judges found to have engaged in misconduct.


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interesting...if the judges do convict him, i'm sure he'll put up a case and fuck the judge in the ass. hahaaa...of all people to arrest and send to court...and on grounds of a shirt?! this Downs guy for sure gonna stick it to them.

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I'm pretty sure it's true because I saw it on CNN and on the local news. Stop blaming the US government for this. It was two mall security guards who took the guy to the police station and filed a complaint against him. The police had to respect the complaint because a mall is considered private property and thus they can file complaints much like any homeowner can file a complaint against a person trespassing. The guy was released on his own recognicance, and get this: he's a laywer who's on an ethics commission for judicial misconduct. So before you get all up in arms about how "unfree" America is keep in mind that it wasnt police who initially brought the matter up. A complaint was filed by two idiot security guards and the police had to investigate it and treat the matter much like any other complaint. Wish it was me ... I can just imagine how much money this guy is gonna get out of suing that mall.

And what would happen if the police wouldn't remove him.

Short and to the point. He was arrested for trespassing not protesting. If the private owner wants someone to leave his premises and they don't it is trespassing.

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Originally posted by Neo nEro And what would happen if the police wouldn't remove him. Short and to the point. He was arrested for trespassing not protesting. If the private owner wants someone to leave his premises and they don't it is trespassing.

yea but that is violating his 1st amendment right, and it's a public mall

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i guess this is true, but it is ridiculous. i am sure he wont get jailed for it. you dont get jailed for wearing t shirts, and it does have nothing to do with us laws, it has to do with two mall security guards, that is why they are security guards, they are stupid. now im not saying all mall security guards are, but they are

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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike Blatently gonna wear my "Fuck America" t-shirt when i come to the states this/next year. Cocks

^^^ you sound like a *smart* one so i'll pick on you this time. oooookay *m8*, so you are planning a trip to the states but plan to wear a "fuck america" t-shirt? well then dont be suprised when the customs lady has her finger up your *arse* looking for *contraband*, that might be further supported if you have darker skin. they tend to discriminate at the airports, well everywhere else these days in the US.

2nd. i advise you to please not do a silly thing as the one you've described above, because, as much shit you guys get away with talking shit about the US on these boards, you must realize that Americans - a GREAT majority of them still love this country, respect it and will defend it, even if they dont agree fully with the politics.

in other words, you might get violated in the most violent way soon after you step ground onto US soil.

as for this one...PvD definitely DID NOT take style tips from Tiesto. hmmm....looks like a *hiPPy on drUgS* hehe..good ol' PvD

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Originally posted by DarkTrance yea but that is violating his 1st amendment right, and it's a public mall

It's not violating his first admendment right and it's not all that "public." Think of it this way, a "public" mall is still considered private property much like any other place and as such is subject to the owner's wishes. For example many restaurants have dress codes/no shirt or shoes no service policies. The same reasoning can apply to malls. Yes he can express his freedom of speech in a public place but not really a mall. Which more or less makes sense if you think about it. If a bunch of people protesting abortion at a mall near you clog up the entire area, your shopping is going to be disrupted. Same thing applies in these circumstance. The police can't simply say that "this is complete bullshit so we are going to ignore it" otherwise they are setting a precedent. More likely than not the case will be dismissed. A lot of people may disrespect our country because of weird stuff such as this but it only makes me love my country even more. It shows that we uphold the absolute letter of the law and that no matter how absurd it can be, we treat every situation with the same circumstance and respect.

I get what you said about violating laws that could disrupt things that happen in a public place, ie the normal everyday shopping of people if there were a protest etc. But this guy did NOT hamper the operation of the business at all. He just wore a t shirt that expressed a certain opinion. Big deal! As for:

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Originally posted by occrider It shows that we uphold the absolute letter of the law and that no matter how absurd it can be, we treat every situation with the same circumstance and respect.

Upholding the letter of the law no matter how absurd it can be?? PFFFF! Come on man! Think! Use your head. Just because something is a law does not mean is unquestionable and perfect. It's like because it's the law I have to be a robot and blindly follow something without questioning it? The idea of treating every situation with the same circumstance and respect can be fine in some situations but there are ALWAYS exceptions to every "rule". I hope people start thinking outside of the box and stop blindly following things...
Next thing you'll know is someone will be doing something inside their own house that won't even be considered that blasphemous and the law/government will be cracking down on it as well in the name of "Freedom/democracy". Watch out big brother is coming (if not already here).

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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike Blatently gonna wear my "Fuck America" t-shirt when i come to the states this/next year. Cocks

FYI Not a good idea. Too many people with guns here.

The guy prolly did something stupid or tried to start a commotion.

The article also mentioned that the guy was charged for tresspassing. Surely, he was being charged for something other than a tshirt. The guy is prolly a well known protester and the security guard was afraid the man was gonna start a peace riot in the mall which would be very bad.

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