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Old Post Mar-14-2003 21:38  Canada
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Americans aren't dumb .. look here:

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torontotrance
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Time to jump into this. I think every country has the snobs (we are better than you). Americans treat me well, so do Canadians then again, I'm biased because my mom is american and my dad is canadian. I hold dual citzenship to the usa and canada. Then again...from the people that think they are better than others....how much of a population do they actually represent....less than 2%. Then again, I'm not losing any sleep over it.

Old Post Mar-14-2003 21:51  Canada
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Re: Re: .. how dumb can they (americans) be? ..

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Old Post Mar-14-2003 23:03  Croatia
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Whoever said that Canada has the worlds 3rd smallest army is full of shit. There are tens of countries that don't even have an airforce. Many countries don't even have a standing army. I love how people just make up stats to help argue their case. 78% of all statistics are created by morons. All you people who say that Canada couldn't exist with the US are only looking at one side of the story. You quckly forget that Canada is the US's largest trading partner. It's fair to say that they couldn't exist without us. As far the american military protecting us, what exactly are they protecting us for? Last time I checked the americans haven't valliantly stopped any enemy attacks. Infact, the last time I checked the americans got the white house burned down by none other then the canadians. Perhaps they should work on protecting themselves. Anyway this whole xenophobia thing is getting old. Yes george bush is a moron, no that doesn't make all americans morons. Some of them didn't vote for him.

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quote:
Originally posted by failsafe
Whoever said that Canada has the worlds 3rd smallest army is full of shit. There are tens of countries that don't even have an airforce. Many countries don't even have a standing army. I love how people just make up stats to help argue their case. 78% of all statistics are created by morons. All you people who say that Canada couldn't exist with the US are only looking at one side of the story. You quckly forget that Canada is the US's largest trading partner. It's fair to say that they couldn't exist without us. As far the american military protecting us, what exactly are they protecting us for? Last time I checked the americans haven't valliantly stopped any enemy attacks. Infact, the last time I checked the americans got the white house burned down by none other then the canadians. Perhaps they should work on protecting themselves. Anyway this whole xenophobia thing is getting old. Yes george bush is a moron, no that doesn't make all americans morons. Some of them didn't vote for him.

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I think the stat (78% of all statistics are created by morons,) was also created by a moron. i mean i could be wrong but i think your just another tipical Canadian that likes to bash Bush when you have no clue at all. maybe you should repeat third grade and worry about your spelling before you come on here and make yourself look stupid.

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torontotrance
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I think you all need to stfu about arrogant americans. There are arrogant americans and arrogant canadians. My gosh, have we become so hatred towards one another that we fail to realize the obvious. Americans are so similar to Canadians that it's not funny, cept they live in a different part in North America, pay their taxes to a different place then we do, speak with a different accent in the same language I might add!. Grow up about the I hate George Bush, after he may make decisions we don't agree with but then again, the American voters voted him in. Canadians did the same with Jean Chretien and he makes idiotic mistakes and comments like like Dubya. I think people need to stop hating one another because this is how conflicts start!

Old Post Mar-15-2003 03:13  Canada
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quote:
Originally posted by failsafe
Whoever said that Canada has the worlds 3rd smallest army is full of shit. There are tens of countries that don't even have an airforce. Many countries don't even have a standing army.


Oops my mistake... I meant to say, Canada spends the 3rd least amount of money into their military out of all the countries that do have military spending.

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All you people who say that Canada couldn't exist with the US are only looking at one side of the story. You quckly forget that Canada is the US's largest trading partner. It's fair to say that they couldn't exist without us.


This is not true. The reason Canada is the US's largest trading partner is because Canada needs America's money, so Canada sells goods to the US for very cheap. This includes wood, and oil. In a way, the US is using Canada to get cheap products.

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As far the american military protecting us, what exactly are they protecting us for? Last time I checked the americans haven't valliantly stopped any enemy attacks. Infact, the last time I checked the americans got the white house burned down by none other then the canadians. Perhaps they should work on protecting themselves.

Obviously, for you, the word history does not have a timeline in it.
Does this mean that if I'm Jewish, I should always keep my eye on all Germans, because for all we know any of them could be a Nazi?
Also, does this mean that if I'm Canadian I should try and burn down to White House?

Things have changed...

Old Post Mar-15-2003 04:21  Yugoslavia
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Dr. Z: Time to look like an idiot.

you sited canada has having the 3rd lowest WORLDWIDE military spending. Pulled that one out of your ass?


Canada and global military spending patterns

By US standards, Canadian defence spending is abysmally low, but at just over over $12 billion Canada is in the top 10 per cent of military spenders worldwide. The Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI) lists the defence spending of 160 countries in 2001, with Canada ranked at 16.1 The former US Arms Control and Disarmament Agency, in its last report, used 1997 figures to rank Canada 16th from the top of a list of 167 countries (and 6th from the top in military spending per soldier).2 The International Institute of Strategic Studies (IISS) in London ranks Canada as the 7th highest military spender of NATO’s 19 member states (within the top third of non-US members). In a list of 46 European and North American states, IISS ranks Canada as 8th from the top – in other words, Canada ranks within the top 20 per cent.





You said that Canada needs americas money, and thus sells it's goods very cheap.


Canada needs american money as much as america needs Canadian goods. If the americans could harvest trees or produce oil at cheaper prices they would. They can't so we make BILLIONS! off of them. Why do you think they thew a fit at the softwood lumber on the west coast? Because they couldn't come close to our prices even though we're making a killing. I suggest you brush up on your economics. Canada isn't getting the raw end of the stick here. We are both eachothers largest trading partner. It's a two way street here. If we all of the sudden blocked the border it would be chaos. We wouldn't have any finished goods, and the americans wouldn't have any raw materials.



you then proceeded to blab on about world history and timelines? You don't seem to have a point. So I won't bother trying to argue with nothing.



On to the next moron.

vtech junkie said:

"i mean i could be wrong but i think your just another tipical Canadian that likes to bash Bush when you have no clue at all. maybe you should repeat third grade and worry about your spelling before you come on here and make yourself look stupid."

I'm a typical human. If you took a look around the world, bush doesn't seem to have a lot of allies. He is considered a moron world wide. He thought africa was a country for gods sake.

as far as the spelling, I type quickly and don't proof read. I imagine you do the same or you wouldn't have spelt "tipical" => typical?


anyway.... ignorance is bliss i suppose.



for the record. I don't hate americans, though some americans would make it pretty easy.

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Dr. Z
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quote:
Originally posted by failsafe
By US standards, Canadian defence spending is abysmally low, but at just over over $12 billion Canada is in the top 10 per cent of military spenders worldwide. The Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI) lists the defence spending of 160 countries in 2001, with Canada ranked at 16.1 The former US Arms Control and Disarmament Agency, in its last report, used 1997 figures to rank Canada 16th from the top of a list of 167 countries (and 6th from the top in military spending per soldier).2 The International Institute of Strategic Studies (IISS) in London ranks Canada as the 7th highest military spender of NATO’s 19 member states (within the top third of non-US members). In a list of 46 European and North American states, IISS ranks Canada as 8th from the top – in other words, Canada ranks within the top 20 per cent.

Nicely done. Copied right out of http://www.ploughshares.ca/CONTENT/BRIEFINGS/brf026.html, anything else you comment on?

After some time searching I've found a site that compares the military spending of a few countries. Now tell me how much Canada spends. And remember, there are only a few countries in NATO. Scroll down, look how much the Philippines spend, Malaysia, Indonesia...
---> http://www.anti-bases.org/blue_paper/aabcc_submission.htm


quote:

You said that Canada needs americas money, and thus sells it's goods very cheap.


Canada needs american money as much as america needs Canadian goods. ...

Umm, there are other countries that the US can get their raw materials. Russia, South America. The reason they get it from us is because its cheap. They don't have to pay all these shipping costs and the rest of that mambo jumbo. Canada can't do that, some other countries need raw materials but its too expensive to get it from Canada because is isolated from the rest of the world. Canada is only in direct contact with the US.

quote:

you then proceeded to blab on about world history and timelines? You don't seem to have a point. So I won't bother trying to argue with nothing.

Lol!
Read it again.
I said that, some events happened because the world as we know it was totaly different than it is now. You can't say the US should watch its back just because Canada burned its white house 200 years ago.

Sigh...

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Old Post Mar-15-2003 05:55  Yugoslavia
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Dr Z: Philippines spend, Malaysia, Indonesia are all 3rd world countries. What a great idea to be spending all that money on useless tanks and guns while your people starve and live in poverty. If you think that's good policy then that's your call. I've never stated that canada spent the most on it's military, I mearly said that you were WAY OUT TO LUNCH when you said it was the 3rd last in the world.


Anything that happens to Canada has an adverse effect on the USA. yes we'd have to ship our raw materials all over the world, but they'd also have to ship their finished good somewhere else. It's much cheaper to ship raw materials world wide then it is finished goods. Hell we ship LOTS of raw materials world wide as it is. Canadian grain, ore, lumber has major internnational markets. You'll notice that 90% of american finished goods don't. No one wants to pay the high american wages when they can do it much cheaper in their own country. Again, I'll STRONGLY suggest that you brush up on econmics before further making yourself look like a fool.


I never sad the USA should watch their backs because canada was gonna go burn the whitehouse down agian. It was mearly an illustration showing that canada has nothing to worry about. We can protect ourself agasint any realistic threat out there. All the Billions the USA sunk into bombers and tanks didn't prevent sept 11th, and it won't prevent it from happening again either. Do you really think that Iraq is going to mobolize a fleet and start shelling the coast of nova scotia? We simply just don't need a huge military.


Anyway, it's been a blast.


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