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kurai
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Registered: Mar 2001
Location: Switzerland

quote:
Originally posted by vito
djs that get paid to play out music should pay the artists (i.e. buy their tunes)
i don't think any pro dj illegally plays mp3s, only wannabes do that

btw if you own the vinyl its ok to make a backup cd and play it


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Old Post Mar-18-2003 20:06  Switzerland
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Mr.Mystery
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Vantaa

I'd love it if some DJ played my downloaded tracks at a gig


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Old Post Mar-18-2003 21:15  Finland
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Jocker
whatup homie



Registered: Feb 2001
Location: Pittsburgh, PA

quote:
Originally posted by sektile
now this sounds all happy and joyful, but as someone already mentioned.. quality? surely. even 320kbps mp3 is compressed and doesnt sound as good as vinyl or cd



i bet my head to be chopped off (both of them, if you want to) that you will NEVER notice a difference between a 192kbps MP3 and a CD played in a club (i mean not like the ideal situation with no people in the club and a very good sound system, but the "normal" packed club)

moreover, quite often 192kbps CD rips sound MUCH BETTER than pure-sounding vinyls because of the inevitable dust-popping on vinyl's surface. even though i am quite obsessed with vinyls, most people want the clearest sound and don't want that cracks and pops as the true authenticity of the dj.


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dj tek
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Registered: Feb 2002
Location: TransFixedST8

quote:
Originally posted by Jocker
quite often 192kbps CD rips sound MUCH BETTER than pure-sounding vinyls because of the inevitable dust-popping on vinyl's surface. even though i am quite obsessed with vinyls, most people want the clearest sound and don't want that cracks and pops as the true authenticity of the dj.


lol... if u take care of your vinyls and always play them clean, u wont have such a problem... and im not even gonna comment about 192kbs cd rips sounding much better than 'pure-sounding vinyls' lol.. u obviously are not obsessed with vinyls cuz u dont know\appreciate the sound quality that wax provides..


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djSlain
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Registered: May 2001
Location: San Diego CA

(i believe)
Marco V spun his remix of Cafe Del Mar from a burnt CD because his label hadn't finished making a vinyl for himself.


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DJ Mikey Mike
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Registered: Jan 2002
Location: I'm at your mums'

quote:
Originally posted by Jocker
i bet my head to be chopped off (both of them, if you want to) that you will NEVER notice a difference between a 192kbps MP3 and a CD played in a club (i mean not like the ideal situation with no people in the club and a very good sound system, but the "normal" packed club)

moreover, quite often 192kbps CD rips sound MUCH BETTER than pure-sounding vinyls because of the inevitable dust-popping on vinyl's surface. even though i am quite obsessed with vinyls, most people want the clearest sound and don't want that cracks and pops as the true authenticity of the dj.



this is not at all true. when converting from wav to mp3 u lose crucial hi's and lo's that are very very noticeable on a decent sound system

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Jocker
whatup homie



Registered: Feb 2001
Location: Pittsburgh, PA

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike
this is not at all true. when converting from wav to mp3 u lose crucial hi's and lo's that are very very noticeable on a decent sound system


agreed. BUT. not when there are a couple hundreds (or many more) of people around you each one screaming and blowing the whistle.


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Jocker
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Registered: Feb 2001
Location: Pittsburgh, PA

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike
this is not at all true. when converting from wav to mp3 u lose crucial hi's and lo's that are very very noticeable on a decent sound system


also... read this. it might be quite educational:
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...=&threadid=2518

i posted that thread with really stupid and profane assumptions (mainly due to my newbiness), and learnt quite a lot from what the knowledgeable people have said. pay special attention to what skywarp and joel fielder have said...


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VaNFeCto
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Registered: Aug 2002
Location: In Producing Hell, TXTA #13

Yea i think the problem is when people get careless with the CDR and it leaks, and yea i see your point, headliners or pro djs should use vinyl one because of sound quality, two because they get them for free neway, and i think they all complain about mp3s i think they should buy the vinyls and support artist, like mentioned earlier. Althoug 1000's of songs vs. a couple of crates, whew what an advantage.


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Jocker
whatup homie



Registered: Feb 2001
Location: Pittsburgh, PA

as for the main point of discussion:

yeah, i think it is obligatory that djs play the music they bought or received as promos (whether cds or vinyls). just to support the producers.


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D'Paul
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Registered: Mar 2003
Location: College Motherf#ckin Park, MD

Its all about what the artist thinks. It is their property as far as I know.

Old Post Mar-18-2003 23:48  United States
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DJ Kandaio
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Registered: Mar 2003
Location: London, Canada

Personally, when doing my show, I try to play as many indie artists as possible. I make a point of playing everything local, and granted, some of the luckier DJs in London get their stuff on wax, which I play, but most are perfectly satisfied sending me mp3s to play. Also, a lot of rare vinyls, or stuff that hasn't been released yet, I have on mp3. Of course I'll purchase them once I can find them, but I'm not going to be an ass and make my listeners wait until I order something from the UK.

As for the quality, I used to be all for new technology taking over the old. However, when I heard my first vinyl after hearing the same song over mp3 many times over (Sasha - Xpander), I was blown away. The acoustic qualities of a well maintained vinyl take the cake, and you can encode at 320KBS and piss everyone off with a 30 meg mp3 and it will never even come close.

So, for artists who need to get heard, vinyl is not necessary. However, vinyl is better, and supporting the artist who has released on vinyl is better...

DJ Katheda


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