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Originally posted by tiesto14 go read UN resolutions 687 and 1441..u dont know what ur talking about

GO JOIN THE ARMY AND SHOW YOUR PRIDE THERE.

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Originally posted by KLINGKLANG77 no i will not change my views. i think war is wrong. saddam needs to be taken out though, but so does castro and zimbabwe why are we not fighting a war with them? the US needs to stop getting so involved and deal with its own problems first. lots of countrys have nuclear weapons, why do we not start a war with all of them and which would probally result in nuclear war....

if i got a quarter ever time i heard that arguement, i'd be rich

just because there are other problems in the world doesnt mean we shouldnt go agianst all of them at once.

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Originally posted by Izzy if i got a quarter ever time i heard that arguement, i'd be rich just because there are other problems in the world doesnt mean we shouldnt go agianst all of them at once.

yeah but war is not the answer...

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Originally posted by KLINGKLANG77 yeah but war is not the answer...

oh well too late.,...America will win and Hussein will be gone....haha

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Originally posted by tiesto14 oh well too late.,...America will win and Hussein will be gone....haha

and that makes the world a better place?

Saddam has to go, but is the price that is currently be paid to high?

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Originally posted by drizzt81 and that makes the world a better place? Saddam has to go, but is the price that is currently be paid to high?

that remains to be seen...if it ever will be...

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Originally posted by tiesto14 that remains to be seen...if it ever will be...

[sorry for a little off topic again]

the price is already being paid:
- the EU is split. My dream of 'Europe' as a country has been destroyed
-the UN has been kicked in the dirt by Bush, which shows the rest of the world that we cannot trust him to stick to an agreement he signs. (I was looking for a word here, but i cannot come up with it for the life of me)
etc.

I am off, time to get some work done.
[/sorry for a little off topic again]

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Originally posted by tiesto14 i will take the liberty to answer on theri behalf... NO THEY WONT... they will some way or another blame Bush for it...watch....they refuse to accept Hussein is a mad man with evil intentions....one way or another they will flip it around against America....

tiesto14, I am afraid that you do not have that liberty.

Yoepus, this is a very good thread!! I really like the angle, and I will sincerely respond in this way:

If the U.S. finds WMD in Iraq I will not care, quite frankly. The reason is that it is an irrelevant matter whether or not Iraq has/had WMD's anymore. That matter should have been resolved 10 years ago when they first defied the UN. Now, it's just silly. Furthermore, why should I be concerned about the US crying about Iraq's WMD's when they themselves provided it, nay even encouraged the use of it against Iran long ago? Isn't this incredibly hypocritical, indeed the epitomy of hypocrisy?

However - if the U.S. leaves the oil in Iraq alone, then I might consider changing my views on the purpose of being in Iraq.

Of course, it's not such an easy answer. For all I know, this entire war might solely be occuring for the flexing of military muscle. Maybe even to show the world who is boss? Who knows, this might be explicitly declared some day... If that were to happen I would not be surprised at all.

But I digress. Essentially, Yoepus, what this all boils down to is this:

Close to Nothing will make me change my mind on why the US is illegally, immorally, and unjustifiably pursuing a ruthless war on Iraq.

Actually this isn't even a war! It's just mindless slaughter of Iraqis. It's essentially a live-action simulator.

(I bet those soldiers were sure getting tired of shooting up cardboard targets back at home....lol, back to seriousness)

After destroying Iraq 10+ years ago, the US is coming in to destroy the rubble. What good can come to the Iraqis through this at all?

This is why I am totally opposed to the war, was always totally opposed to it, and will always be totally opposed to it.

So, in a way tiesto14, you were right.

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- the EU is split. My dream of 'Europe' as a country has been destroyed

I'd say the biggest error the EU made was letting the British in. They slowed down the unification progress considerably. Every time EU votes on becomming more consolidated, the British always have to be against it and ruin all the effort.

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well, it really depends on the circumstances.

if they indeed have the weapons, now is the time they would use them...so if they dont use any of the weapons, and then after the war has ended, the coalition forces suddenly find all the weapons, i would find it hard to believe that they weren't planted there

on the other hand, if they have them and they use them now, i mite change my mind.