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Originally posted by Fir3start3r There's lots of evidence from past UN inspections that he has those weapons... Whatchu talkin' bout Willis?

Yes but they are destorying those missles that will carry or have those WMD aren't they? They can't just destroy them overnight just like that. I'm for disarmament (not regime change) which could be done without going to war and then from there see what will happen, if his behaviour constitutes regime change after then so be it.

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r I don't argree with war either; but this is not the fault of the Iraqis; this is Saddam's doing, and the world will be a better place without him...

I was going to stay out of this thread, but I just want to say that this is a very good point. It's very, very sad for the Iraqi people that this has to happen, but Saddam is the target, not the people. This wouldn't be the first instance of a leader screwing over his/her country...

Although it's hard to know for sure what I would do, I think if I found out that my country's leader was doing something incredibly controversial or, well, downright evil, then I would seriously consider leaving the country. Maybe that sounds far-fetched, but I actually have some friends in the U.S. who already have a whole plan for skipping off to Europe if Bush steps overboard...

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k i really wanna know out of curiousity and curiousity alone.

is there any proof that saddam in the past 10 years, has committed atrocities against humanity???

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Originally posted by DJ El Kay Dee k i really wanna know out of curiousity and curiousity alone. is there any proof that saddam in the past 10 years, has committed atrocities against humanity???

Not since the "No Fly Zone" was implemented in the last war...

Probably kept him in check...

I'd hate to think what he would have been doing if it wasn't for that...

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r Not since the "No Fly Zone" was implemented in the last war... Probably kept him in check... I'd hate to think what he would have been doing if it wasn't for that...

hmm think about taht....iraqis themselves cant fly over their own land..however other armed forces can...


ever since the sanctions on Iraq, the people have suffered more as compared to prior gulf war

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r Not since the "No Fly Zone" was implemented in the last war... Probably kept him in check... I'd hate to think what he would have been doing if it wasn't for that...

ya but if he really is such a mad man,then he shouldnt give a fuck about no fly zone's and such and would continue terrorizing the region and America and his own people.
or maybe he is not as mad as Bush thinks he is??!!

everyone knows that this war has been brought about to finish what Bush Sr. started and couldnt complete cos of the end of his tenure

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ooh and lets not forget that saddam wanted to kill his father,so hey lets go destroy the whole country and change the regime!!

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer thanks for understanding man!! even though Iam from Iran,it still hurts me alot seeing all this happening to my neighbor!! but anyways hapopy new year to all my fellow Iranians,Iraqis,and others!!

Riiight, and Persians and Arabs have always been on cozy terms.

Well, at least Iran/Persia has a long history of a national identity.
Iraq is a bastard creation of the treaty of Versailles. Even though the name of the country means 'well-rooted nation', it is anything but.

I say no more on the subject, but to hope that the dust settles quickly.

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wasn;t Iraq once Babylonia .. ? that means that the country is something like 5000 + years old ..

btw. if the US wants to get rid of Saddam cuz he's a ruthless dictator who kills his own people and builds WMD .. does that mean that they're gonna attack every other county in the same boat .. ?

if so .. WHY ? or WHY NOT ??

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer ya but if he really is such a mad man,then he shouldnt give a fuck about no fly zone's and such and would continue terrorizing the region and America and his own people. or maybe he is not as mad as Bush thinks he is??!!

Ok, let's separate something from this arguement.

Bush is there because other countries and Iraqis people WANT him there besides Saddam being an obvious international threat; that's certainly not the issue here.

Blame Bush and you blame a lot of others with this arguement.
We only have to look as far as who is backing this 'coalilition of the willing'; Bush is certianly not acting alone...

And as far as Saddam not giving a 'fuck about no fly zones', I really don't believe Saddam's quite that naive or dumb; he's been in power for how long now? He's obviously a cunning man to have survived this long...

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