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DrUg_Tit0
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Registered: Nov 2002
Location: Zagreb, Croatia

I don't see anything wrong with the US giving foreign aid to Israel. Israel indeed is in a hostile environment, and if it weren't for its large army, it wouldn't exist anymore. Egypt is not in such a situation, so it doesn't need as much foreign aid.

On a side note, american educational system prior to university level is really screwed up. I can say this because I went to school both in the US and here. But that's not a problem of funding, it's mostly because of a bad educational program. Here we definitely have less money to spend on education, but still, prior to university, people here are generally better educated than those in the US. American schools are not pushing their students to work hard at all, so everybody is just slacking and screwing around.


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Old Post Mar-20-2003 09:21  Croatia
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tranceaholic
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Registered: Mar 2002
Location: behind the decks

quote:
Originally posted by occrider
Excellent ... I love discussing . Ok well my statistics were from the usaid site, I'm not sure where yours are from but let's assume that yours are correct. Your stats claim that Israel is getting twice as much as Egypt and you're questioning why Israel is getting so much more and why egypt is getting so much at all. With regards to your first statement I think that Israel is getting so much because the US has been a long time ally and supporter of ISrael since its creation in 1948. I think that if you look at the relative ratio of aid Israel has been getting over the years you will find that it has been relatively constant over the years. This is by no means an indicator of Israeli infiltration of the US government but rather a reflection of a longstanding allied relationship.

With respects to the reason why Egypt is getting so much, I don't really know. I think it stems from cold war relations when egypt was flirting with both the west and the russians. It could be that the US desires an Arab ally in the middle east, it could be anything. Is peace such a bad thing to buy? At any rate I'm merely stating that if you want to bring up the topic of foreign aid, don't just limit the discussion to Israel.


my dear occidier this is the first time ur refutation is weak..aid israel because it is a long time ally? come on..and ok aid it but not with this great amount specially when there is economic depression..next topic Egypt..being egyptian..giving it aid works wonder...people are against the US and its actions however the goverment puts it down because how vital the US aid is for the US and egypt is a strong voice and strength in the arab country..keepin it quiet keeps alot of people quiet..as of now there are alot of protests against the War but the egyuptian goverment puts it down.

Old Post Mar-20-2003 16:56  Egypt
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PeacefulWarrior
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Registered: Jul 2002
Location: Boulder, Colorado

This is just one example of how skewed "US aid" figures in the Middle East were last year (and still continue to become):

"U.S. Contributes $119.25 Million to the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East"

(source: http://www.uspolicy.be/Issues/Middl...trib.092502.htm)

"U.S. to Provide Israel $2.16 Billion in Military Assistance in FY2004"

(source: http://www.uspolicy.be/Issues/Middl...ssis.112202.htm)


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Registered: Jul 2002
Location: Boulder, Colorado

Why would the United States choose today (3.20.03) as the time to make this announcment?

hmmm...


What about:

TEN BILLION FOR OUR SCHOOLS!
TEN BILLION FOR OUR HOSPITALS!
TEN BILLION FOR OUR FIRST RESPONDERS!
TEN BILLION FOR OUR HEALTH CARE!
TEN BILLION FOR OUR FAILING ECONOMY!


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malek
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Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Montréal

it is part of a last minute vote by the congress on 90B more funds for this war, 10B will be wired to the Israelis

quote:
Why would the United States choose today (3.20.03) as the time to make this announcment?


my exact point, everyone is busy with war, this passes on the bottom on the screen on one of these tickers and there you go, no one saw it


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Re: while everyone is busy with the war...

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Originally posted by ahlamalek

wow Santa Clause is late this year, still ditching around 1500 USD to every israeli. Americans are very genereous, they give out their hard earned cash...


I've got only one word for you... anti-Semitic.

And, after looking at your flag, I'm not surprised.


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Dmatrox
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Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Calgary
Re: while everyone is busy with the war...

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Originally posted by ahlamalek
... Israel gets a 10 Billion USD in aid. I bet no one heard about it because everyone is busy with the war



http://news.com.au/common/story_pag...255E401,00.html

wow Santa Clause is late this year, still ditching around 1500 USD to every israeli. Americans are very genereous, they give out their hard earned cash while their public school system is in ruin, and about 30 million of them aren't covered in any kind of medical insurance.

I'm very proud of you Americans! you have a big heart!


Isreal government should find ways to earn their own cash

Thats not fair to the people of the US, im sure the people would have better ideas of where to spend money

How the heck did Isreal get created in the first place?

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malek
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Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Montréal
Re: Re: while everyone is busy with the war...

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Originally posted by Eugene
I've got only one word for you... anti-Semitic.

And, after looking at your flag, I'm not surprised.


wow this remark finally came!! after many many posts! I'm really surprised!!

and FYI I am semite


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tranceaholic
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how about the other people who agree Eugene? do u have the same word for them 2 or are u just judging by flags?

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malek
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Registered: Nov 2001
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haha how about Eugene puts his real flag i.e. Israel and stop hiding behind the Russian one ( goes to the rest of you ! )


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LiquidX
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Registered: Mar 2001
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I really dont think that the US should be giving that amount of money to Israel, there's country's with alot more needs, really... but even so, the US actually needs the money now.


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PeacefulWarrior
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Re: Re: while everyone is busy with the war...

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Originally posted by Eugene
I've got only one word for you... anti-Semitic.

And, after looking at your flag, I'm not surprised.


It's alot easier to call people names than to come up with your own reasons against the argument, huh Eugene.


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