Registered: Jan 2003
Location: The Seventh City (New Jersey)
Re: G&D They Aren't All That
quote:
Originally posted by Teknoscaper.
just like to express my opinion that Gabriel & Dresdens productions & remixes aren't all that good (apart from 1 or 2) and that I think they're overated and the constant hype about them on this board is rather strange...
Considering Josh Gabriel has done some huge stuff like Wave3 & his remix of Dido - Thank You, I think the majority of stuff he has done with Dave Dresden is a bit of a let down, and is in most cases, lacking in decent overall production finese.
For example; the remix of One For The Road, is just simply boring progressive at a trance tempo. The production is quite shallow in my opinion. I don't understand the hype generated by it on this board. Is it suddenly because the trance crew has felt left out by the increase in popularity in progressive music, and along comes G&D who decide to make prog house for trance tempos, then suddenly they're the new trance gods? It is a curious concept, but I guess its much the same as the hype over Filterheadz late last year.
Nevermind, its just my opinion...
/cue misguided flame war...
HEY FILTERHEADZ HAVENT GONE ANYWHERE
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Mar-28-2003 19:56
torontotrance
I hath returned
Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Toronto
remember ppl...this is coming from teknoscaper...aka bedrock..the fool that we banned from being a jackass. He is too prog elite for us all.
Mar-28-2003 19:58
VaNFeCto
Flip him the bird...
Registered: Aug 2002
Location: In Producing Hell, TXTA #13
I dont know i think for the most part G & D are pretty solid, i like their productions not all of them but most of them. I however dont understand the hype over their Beautiful THings remix to me it doesnt sound fresh, also the samee thing with their Motorcycle tune. I find As The Rush Comes in rather boring and the vocals don tso much for me, I also agree with the Filterheadz comment. I have only found myself liking two of their productions the rest IMO were crap. Dont get me wrong here though I love G & D to the fullest its just i can see where you wuold say that, and i think it does come down to a matter of taste on this one. Also dont forget their EM blew A LOT OF PEOPLE AWAY, so a lot more people are focusing on them now.
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Bjork - Violently Happy (Mercurio Mix)
Mar-28-2003 20:02
dj_alucard
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Feb 2003
Location: Winnerpeg
well kudos to a godd strted topic
and your opinion is as good as the next mans...
i dont agree of course....but then again i wretch at anything ferry corsten puts out i wretched at dj cor finjman venus and i wretched and svenson and geilen beachbreeze...mind you the latter are well produced..they are formula trance..that really has no different sound tham the trance sound sound back in '97.
and that is my opinion
and why should the be classified as trance? gabriel himself was a house/progressive house producer and dresden adds his touch of dance background to teh songs they produce...giving them a unique style of progressive/G&D ..hehe trance.
personally i have loved all there songs...bar lament..didnt liek it too much...but there style is so different and alot of teh songs are not geared toward dancin and raving tehy are geared alot towards listening and chilling...and where i am from that counts over anything else...great production..solid listenability...and overall beautiful almost folk music trance.
but thats my opinio so who cares ...haha
cause that is what it all comes down to with music..either you like or you dont..but if alot of ppl here seem to like...then so be it...maybe that is a good thing
just thought i would say my two cents....
Mar-28-2003 20:27
RWC0412
Easy Lee
Registered: Jan 2003
Location: Windsor,Ont.
I hope G&D say something bout this !
Where are ya BOYS?!?!! hehe
Mar-28-2003 20:40
Echoes of Dusk
tranceaddict
Registered: Jul 2002
Location: Miami, FL
Re: Re: G&D They Aren't All That
quote:
Originally posted by Sirocco
HEY FILTERHEADZ HAVENT GONE ANYWHERE
So true.. Their remixes of Bedrock - Emerald, Minimalistix - Into the Trees, The Roc Project - Never, and DJ Tiesto - Obsession are absolutely sick~!@~! As for G&D, they only get better and better every remix (Andain - Beautiful Things + Three Drives - Carrera 2)..
Mar-28-2003 20:46
TeKnoHe@d2025
Derek Howell Addict
Registered: Jan 2001
Location: Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
quote:
Originally posted by Nell
i dont find any energy in any of their stuff tbh, only wave 3, and remixes by other producers of some of their other stuff.
Yet another person listening to prog and expecting "energy" Prog is not about energy, it's about the journey the song takes you on, and G&D tunes definately take me and many others on a journey.
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Mar-28-2003 21:42
Arbiter
Naked Power Organ
Registered: May 2002
Location:
They don't particularly excite me, either. I like their basslines, but their tunes really don't have much else to offer. If I want atmosphere, there's plenty of better progressive out there.
Mar-28-2003 21:50
DJ A.i
Oooo that dirty electro!
Registered: May 2001
Location: Jersey City, NJ
not a big fan of G&D... b/c they are not my style... but i respect them as producers.. esp. j Gabriel
Mar-28-2003 22:12
trancedfarmer
Anti-Cheese Crusader
Registered: Aug 2002
Location: Seattle, Washington
quote:
Originally posted by mndeg
best american producers/remixers
that doesnt say much... nevertheless, Motorcycle is definately incredible.
Mar-28-2003 22:51
Nell
sure thing
Registered: Feb 2001
Location: Newcastle , England
quote:
Originally posted by TeKnoHe@d2025
Yet another person listening to prog and expecting "energy" Prog is not about energy, it's about the journey the song takes you on, and G&D tunes definately take me and many others on a journey.
i still dont like em adn there is no journey in any of their tracks, theyre shite.
And what the fuckin hell is the deal with the overhype of their mindcircuse remix. PLEASE LISTEN TO THE ORIGINAL FIRST!!! you will see there is fuck all difference. get Jay's sleepwalker mix if you want to hear something that isnt an upbeat of the original. the sleepwalker mix offers somethign totally different. NO G&D mixes offer anything that alternative. buy some synths and stop only using drum machines and effect pads to remix!!!
As for G&D, they only get better and better every remix (Andain - Beautiful Things + Three Drives - Carrera 2).. 
Prog is not about energy, it's about the journey the song takes you on, and G&D tunes definately take me and many others on a journey.
