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I actually really like hip-hop and I also like "electronic music" so I don't think they're mutually exclusive but that's just me.

Hip hop IS electronic dance music. And the most popular and influential music genre in the Western world right now.

However, most of you judge the genre from listening to the mainstream crap that gets play on MTV and the radio. That's just like people that say that trance sucks because they've heard DJ Sammy and Scooter and never been really exposed to the good stuff.

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Originally posted by ahlamalek Hip-Hop is the culture, Rap is its music.

A hip hop dj would tell you that rap is about MCing and hip hop is about the mixing and scratching of the beats. I recommend that everyone see the documentary "Scratch", it has some of the most genius djing i've ever seen. From Afrika Bombataa to Cut Chemist.

ok, so someone listen to the mentioned Talib Kweli album and tell me if it fits your negative stereotypes of mtv and bling bling. that, after all, was the *challenge*

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Originally posted by decibel08 ok, so someone listen to the mentioned Talib Kweli album and tell me if it fits your negative stereotypes of mtv and bling bling. that, after all, was the *challenge* --dannyB--

respect for the challenge, but its a losing battle im afraid. i tried to get people to listen to Kweli - Too Late on TA cause its the most euphoric hip hop i have ever heard - but no luck.

the same reason people who like mainstream hip hop like dj sammy is because it is just that- mainstream. so therefore everyone who doesnt bother trying anything new never learns that any genre of music has multifaceted artists.

music is music, there are boring cheesy trance songs and boring rap songs with shitty lyrics or beats.

when people arent exposed, or refuse to allow themselves to try something new- they will never adapt their *wrong* stereotypes|

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This is something that I've been trying to figure out. Maybe I'm missing something, but since when was R&B (Rhythm & Blues) associated with "bitches and hoes"? To me it seems like the complete opposite, as most R&B songs are about love. When I think of R&B, artist like Stevie Wonder, The Isley Brothers, Marvin Gaye, Boyz 2 Men, etc. come to mind. Those artists are so far from being "tbugz".

i respect the underground hip-hop stuff, even if i don't like, on the other way i hate the commercial un-imaginative stuff that you see on mtv 24/7.

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i guess reducing rap to eminem is like reducing electronic music to eiffel 65 and darude...

but even with that i'll never listen to hip-hop

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The bad side of hip hop and any music is the commercialization... i appreciate trance alot more because its not too commercial over here in north america... I agree there are a lot of good artist out there, including roots, talib kwelli, common, gangstarr, and the underground scene... Taste in music has a lot to do with your mentality towards it, the more ignorant one feels, the less one is bound to change... Prejudice can esculate to war/violence...

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Even if you hate hip-hop, you have to like DJ Shadow. Incredible. And I agree, everyone should see "Scratch".

I just can't enjoy music that is dependent on its lyrics. I don't think it "sucks," but I also recognize that it simply does not provide me with what I, personally, am looking for in music.

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Originally posted by DJ PíO A hip hop dj would tell you that rap is about MCing and hip hop is about the mixing and scratching of the beats. I recommend that everyone see the documentary "Scratch", it has some of the most genius djing i've ever seen. From Afrika Bombataa to Cut Chemist.

Main Entry: hip-hop
Pronunciation: 'hip-"häp
Function: noun
Usage: often attributive
Etymology: perhaps from 4hip + 1hop
Date: 1983
: a subculture especially of inner-city youths whose amusements include rap music, graffiti, and break dancing; also : an element or art form prevalent within this subculture

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Originally posted by ahlamalek Main Entry: hip-hop Pronunciation: 'hip-"häp Function: noun Usage: often attributive Etymology: perhaps from 4hip + 1hop Date: 1983 : a subculture especially of inner-city youths whose amusements include rap music, graffiti, and break dancing; also : an element or art form prevalent within this subculture

Dude I know you're just taking it too literally. As I said, watch Scratch and listen to what the actual djs have to say about the terms and what it means to THEM.

listen to Jurrasic 5 the more i listen to them the more i like em.........I dont think they will ever rival Tupac....

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