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DrUg_Tit0
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Originally posted by occrider
Did you read my response to renegade when he posted about the "International War Crimes Tribunal"??? NOBODY recognizes the international war crimes tribunal because it's not affiliated with any world body of politics at all!!! It's a hokey organization that took an official sounding name so they can SEEM affilitated with the UN. Take a look at the judges of this "tribunal," they are all left-wing peace activists. They provided no supporting evidence for their "convictions" and they only prosecute the United States! NOBODY else! What does that tell you? What are they gonna do when politicians are hauled in front of them??? Place them under citizen's arrest??? What a joke ...


Hmm, last time I checked the war crimes tribunal was set up because of the war when Yugoslavia broke up. Croatia, Serbia and Bosnia are obligated to send suspects to that court. The tribunal also extended it's jurisdiction over Rwanda, as many of their war criminals are there. Politicians have infact been hauled in front of that court, take Milosevic as one example. That court is also affiliated with the UN, because whenever one of the countries here decides it doesn't want to send a suspect there, there's lot of fuss from the UN and the EU. I have noticed two funny things, though. First one is that the US diplomats never fail to express their anger when one of the countries here decides to postpone turning in the suspects. Talking about hypocrisy... The second is that most of the people from every single country that has dealings with that court are convinced that their country is the only one that is being the target of that court. Every time somebody from Serbia/Croatia/Bosnia is against that court, the prime argument is "We are the only ones who are turning our commanders in while all the other countries are protect their generals, even though their generals are criminals and ours aren't." I see US has joined the bunch. Just for the record, there are over 30 people from Serbia sentenced there, about 15 from Bosnia, and about 20 bosnian croats. Also there are a few Rwandan war criminals (a country that commited genocide over 800 000 people and is now a proud member of the coalition), although I don't know how much. So that court isn't only after the US.


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Hmm, last time I checked the war crimes tribunal was set up because of the war when Yugoslavia broke up. Croatia, Serbia and Bosnia are obligated to send suspects to that court. The tribunal also extended it's jurisdiction over Rwanda, as many of their war criminals are there. Politicians have infact been hauled in front of that court, take Milosevic as one example. That court is also affiliated with the UN, because whenever one of the countries here decides it doesn't want to send a suspect there, there's lot of fuss from the UN and the EU. I have noticed two funny things, though. First one is that the US diplomats never fail to express their anger when one of the countries here decides to postpone turning in the suspects. Talking about hypocrisy... The second is that most of the people from every single country that has dealings with that court are convinced that their country is the only one that is being the target of that court. Every time somebody from Serbia/Croatia/Bosnia is against that court, the prime argument is "We are the only ones who are turning our commanders in while all the other countries are protect their generals, even though their generals are criminals and ours aren't." I see US has joined the bunch. Just for the record, there are over 30 people from Serbia sentenced there, about 15 from Bosnia, and about 20 bosnian croats. Also there are a few Rwandan war criminals (a country that commited genocide over 800 000 people and is now a proud member of the coalition), although I don't know how much. So that court isn't only after the US.


You're confusing the International Military Tribunal and the International Criminal Tribunal with the International War Crimes Tribunal. Check it out ... there's a big difference.
THIS is the international War Crimes Tribunal:

http://www.deoxy.org/wc/warcrime.htm

THESE are the International Criminal Courts that are actually affiliated with the UN:
http://www.un.org/law/index.html


Good luck finding something against any other country from the first one . Not to mention that the findings aren't even sanctioned or supported by the UN. The US does indeed support the International Criminal Tribunals. Just not the "International War Crimes Tribunal" which is a joke set up by an extremist organization. So as you can see there is no hypocrisy.

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I must admid I mixed up those two because I never heard of the first one. My apologies on that part. But one thing still stands, and that is that US refused to allow the ICJ jurisdiction over it's war crime suspects, while at the same time it bullies other nations to turn their criminals in. I must say it's a good thing that the US does that because otherwise most of those countries wouldn't have sentenced those criminals on their own, but still, a sense of hypocrisy remains.


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