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Originally posted by trancinchink i mean, you guys really expect them to change their sound multiple times a year, always constantly be at the top of their game, and crank out amazing tracks one after the other. i'm sorry, it doesn't really work that way.

Habersham have done it the past couple of years
Derek Howell to an extent
D.Ramirez
Lee Coombs
Sasha
Eric Prydz

just off the top of my head

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Originally posted by Ory Sasha does it.

hrm... not quite. if you listen to his tracks. u can hear similar elements. u might not be able to distinguish them because they're not as defined as a probspot sound

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Originally posted by Az yeah but it's been done a thousand times before, so it's not if that altf4 tune came out in 1999, everyone would be raving about it (literally), but it came out this year, and noone really cared

But people do go on and on about, ah, for example "Above & Beyond - No One On Earth", and "Alt+F4". That's what's so sad. See the "TA Track of the Year 2004" polls for more sadness.

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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike If I wanted to listen to a DJ bang out shit as weak sounding as Andy Moor / Markus Schulz etc. i'd go listen to Armin van Buuren. Nothing fucks me off more than a fan that thinks a DJ can do no wrong. There is a lot of good music out there. How some people can be so easily pleased is beyond my comprehension.

this thread should have died back on page three

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Originally posted by Mike_Foyle id love to hear some music from some of these elite "real prog" guys... as clearly they are so much more talented than everyone else.

This argument has been debunked multiple times in this thread.

You don't have to be a producer to give criticism and opinion, in the same way that you don't have to be a director to have opinions of films.

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Originally posted by Mike_Foyle id love to hear some music from some of these elite "real prog" guys... as clearly they are so much more talented than everyone else.

I was waiting for this one, a true sign that someones defeated, the "do better yourself" argument
pathetic

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Originally posted by trancinchink hrm... not quite. if you listen to his tracks. u can hear similar elements. u might not be able to distinguish them because they're not as defined as a probspot sound

This is true, but he also knows how to manipulate these similar elements in several of his productions and make them all sound unique and original.

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Originally posted by Az Habersham have done it the past couple of years Derek Howell to an extent D.Ramirez Lee Coombs Sasha Eric Prydz just off the top of my head

yes, and i have 2 of derek howells most recent releases. trust me, there are VERY similiar elements in both of those tracks which you can hear are reused.

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Originally posted by Ory But people do go on and on about, ah, for example "Above & Beyond - No One On Earth", and "Alt+F4". That's what's so sad. See the "TA Track of the Year 2004" polls for more sadness.

I don't bother looking anymore, I'm just using altf4 as an example

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Originally posted by trancinchink hrm... not quite. if you listen to his tracks. u can hear similar elements. u might not be able to distinguish them because they're not as defined as a probspot sound

Definitely. I'm objective enough to be able to see that. What I think though, is that the producers should try something new in everything they do, like Sasha does.

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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike If I wanted to listen to a DJ bang out shit as weak sounding as Andy Moor / Markus Schulz etc. i'd go listen to Armin van Buuren. Nothing fucks me off more than a fan that thinks a DJ can do no wrong. There is a lot of good music out there. How some people can be so easily pleased is beyond my comprehension.

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Originally posted by Ory Definitely. I'm objective enough to be able to see that. What I think though, is that the producers should try something new in everything they do, like Sasha does.

Something a bit more original than a different permutation of the same samples, at least. Breaking past usual track structures is even better.