My my what an eventuful race! This is why F1 is the number 1 motorsport in the world and attracts the most audience across the globe. What was turning out to be a beautiful day for Ferrari ended up being a nightmare, Kimi's case was excusable as the car had issues but what was the reason for Massa's dropping pace in the last 10 laps or so??? What was going to be a good advantage for Ferrari had just dissapeared in a flash my my did i yell at Massa and the TV...overall theres still plenty to fight for and i hail all the drivers who made it to the finish line at the Nurburgring!

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Originally posted by fcuk ® My my what an eventuful race! This is why F1 is the number 1 motorsport in the world and attracts the most audience across the globe. What was turning out to be a beautiful day for Ferrari ended up being a nightmare, Kimi's case was excusable as the car had issues but what was the reason for Massa's dropping pace in the last 10 laps or so??? What was going to be a good advantage for Ferrari had just dissapeared in a flash my my did i yell at Massa and the TV...overall theres still plenty to fight for and i hail all the drivers who made it to the finish line at the Nurburgring!

There were vibrations in the wheel or so he said in the interview at the end. He could not possible catch up with fernando after the tyre change.

Best f1 race i've seen live so far. SO FRIGGING EXCITING.

I could understand why massa would be mad. I mean he just lost the lead in the final 5 laps,and to get a comment like that...I would be pissed too. And it really wasnt his fault he lost the race. Ferrari's car arent reliable; period.

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Originally posted by rikhav LOL, i know but i was just surprised that the engine was running for so long without overheating

They were getting extra water cooling on Sunday

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Originally posted by trewqy There were vibrations in the wheel or so he said in the interview at the end. He could not possible catch up with fernando after the tyre change. Best f1 race i've seen live so far. SO FRIGGING EXCITING. I could understand why massa would be mad. I mean he just lost the lead in the final 5 laps,and to get a comment like that...I would be pissed too. And it really wasnt his fault he lost the race. Ferrari's car arent reliable; period.

In the press conference Webber found it interesting that Massa also had the same vibrations which he had to cope with on his last set of tyres, so the bridgestones design that everybody was running was flawed instead of it being a ferrari specific related issue.

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Robert had vibrations too, but because of the real axle damage sustained when Heidfeld rammed into his car

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i think we can all conclude that vibrations = good race

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and it would've been pleasurable for women f1 drivers

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Mclaren were found guilty but not disqualified

Maybe this happened because it would have been not good for the sport
F1 would have lost lots of viewership and ticket sales would reach super low.
who would like to see ferrari walking away with both the championship with no fight. And whats the point of such winning

I am die hard Ferrari fan but then i would not have liked that.
But i can understand Ferrari and Mclaren's position. Both teams are right in their way
Mclaren has done something wrong but not intentionally not knowing what some of it's employees are upto and even ferrari is right that they have been screwed

i'm surprised they didn't even get a fine

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Originally posted by stren i'm surprised they didn't even get a fine

Ferrai is going on with case in the Italian and UK court
lets see what the outcome is

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Originally posted by rikhav I am die hard Ferrari fan but then i would not have liked that. But i can understand Ferrari and Mclaren's position. Both teams are right in their way Mclaren has done something wrong but not intentionally not knowing what some of it's employees are upto and even ferrari is right that they have been screwed

The problem is, distinguishing between a team member and a team can be difficult, when wrong doing is considered. I think Mcl was able to prove (some how) that the documents were not seen by more than a small hand full of people, and none of it was used. The problem with this ruling in my eye is how can you expect a key member of the design team, not to use the documents, when he was in possession of them?

I'm glad for the sport that they are continuing on unscaved, but it is disappointed that real cheating was not punished.

In my eyes, Ron Dennis would never cheat to beat Ferrari. He has been racing for too long, with too much of his life devoted to it, just to throw it away on small performance gains through cheating. I think he would take more satisfaction from beating Ferrari fair and square.

Former Ferrari driver Mika Salo was not surprised by the scandal. According the Salo, it's usual business in F1. He said in to Ilta-Sanomat. "When I was driving for Ferrari we always spied on McLaren, listening their radio traffic. After every practice session I had in front of me, on paper, all the discussions Mika Hakkinen had had with his engineer."

Maybe this is a very small form of cheating which every big team is into