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Originally posted by Dj Alex (ISR)

Israeli missle or Hezbollah?

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Originally posted by Jackson Israeli missle or Hezbollah?

HIZBOLLAH

PICTURE FROM FEW HOURS AGO




yesterday, when the rocket hit Haifa when 8 peopple got killed.






all the other pictures got classified by the order of the army.




when the whole world hears that israel killing children.. i hope you will get the point from this picture..
those are the Katusha missiles.

Last edited by Dj Alex (ISR) on Jul-17-2006 at 21:08

It's pointless to argue a lopsided discussion. Many democratic, even "modern" regimes in the world view this confrontation as disproportionate by Israel. Well, I urge you to point out when did Hizbollah warned civilians it will open fire on their territories? Ummm... anyone? Anyone? That's right - never.

Israel warned civilians to leave the territories that they will be shelling. I don't recall a single country at war doing that. Yet they did. Those who chose to stay, took their chances and were dumb. Not victims. Dumb.

They got nowhere to go, you say? Well, last I checked people were responsible for controlling their circumstances. Hizbollah took the role of patron saint and took the very people it claims to represent and protect hostage. It deliberately positions its weapons amidst civilians to either reduce the chance of retaliation or to create a picture of the satan-Israel that Iran and other extremist governments and organizations want to show the world. "See, they're killing civilians".

Tell me - if police acosts a hostage taker who is killing police and civilians, exactly how many lives will it take before the cops kill the hostage along with the hostage-taker to reduce further body count? I'd say rather quickly. And take the consequences.

Hizbollah has only itself to blame for the wrath they bring on the very people they say they represent. Truth is that they are a rogue terrorist group, responsible for the blood of their people.

There's no further argument to make - you either take the side of terrorists or side of sane people. Sane person does not kidnap another person or blow himself up in the midst of civilians.

Arabs will be martyrs at the hands of their own puppeteers - the terrorists that don't give them any choice not to be martyrs.

Israel has the right to exist and no measure is too extrodinary to ensure that uncontrollable, dark-age retards and fanatics say or do otherwise.

I applaud world powers for having the balls and nerve to tollerate terrorists and their sponsor states in Palestine, Iran, Syria, Lebanon and not turn those countries into shiny pieces of glass, visible from space.

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Originally posted by emc^2 It's pointless to argue a lopsided discussion. Many democratic, even "modern" regimes in the world view this confrontation as disproportionate by Israel. Well, I urge you to point out when did Hizbollah warned civilians it will open fire on their territories? Ummm... anyone? Anyone? That's right - never. Israel warned civilians to leave the territories that they will be shelling. I don't recall a single country at war doing that. Yet they did. Those who chose to stay, took their chances and were dumb. Not victims. Dumb. They got nowhere to go, you say? Well, last I checked people were responsible for controlling their circumstances. Hizbollah took the role of patron saint and took the very people it claims to represent and protect hostage. It deliberately positions its weapons amidst civilians to either reduce the chance of retaliation or to create a picture of the satan-Israel that Iran and other extremist governments and organizations want to show the world. "See, they're killing civilians". Tell me - if police acosts a hostage taker who is killing police and civilians, exactly how many lives will it take before the cops kill the hostage along with the hostage-taker to reduce further body count? I'd say rather quickly. And take the consequences. Hizbollah has only itself to blame for the wrath they bring on the very people they say they represent. Truth is that they are a rogue terrorist group, responsible for the blood of their people. There's no further argument to make - you either take the side of terrorists or side of sane people. Sane person does not kidnap another person or blow himself up in the midst of civilians. Arabs will be martyrs at the hands of their own puppeteers - the terrorists that don't give them any choice not to be martyrs. Israel has the right to exist and no measure is too extrodinary to ensure that uncontrollable, dark-age retards and fanatics say or do otherwise. I applaud world powers for having the balls and nerve to tollerate terrorists and their sponsor states in Palestine, Iran, Syria, Lebanon and not turn those countries into shiny pieces of glass, visible from space.

every word is gold here..
totaly agreed.

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Originally posted by Dj Alex (ISR) every word is gold here.. totaly agreed.

And fucking Russians - those douchebags mother******s! Maaan.. Russkies might as well come out of the closet and claim their rightful place next to Adolf by publicly acknowledging "WE HATE THEM JEWS TOO!".

Fucking Russia supplies countries like Syria, Lebanon, and Iran with weapons. Desparately wants to supply Palestinians with weapons and claims - Oh, they are for defense. And they will not be given to terrorists.

EXCUSE ME? Let's get few things straight: selling weapons to France - good. UK - good. Fuck, even China - good. why? BECAUSE THE GOVERNMENT HAS ENOUGH CONTROL OVER ITS PEOPLE not to allow some brain-dead camel jockeys to attack another country on their behalf. Imagine this for a second: a group of Chinese militants attack russian soldiers and kidnap a few, in exchange for Chinese prisoners.

How would Russia react? More importantly, how would China react if it saw that its political, econimic, and other interests were at risk? It would send an army and wipe off anyone left standing and obliterate anyone holding anything even remotely resembling a stick or snowball in their hands.

Or, say this happened between Canada and US - bunch of Rednecks in Montana kidnap few Canadians and demand that all the maple syryp and bacon were to be shipped to them or Canuks get it. US would kill them and not even issue an official apology. (Does Waco, TX ring a bell? And those were just your ordinary occultists).

Now, you have countries like Lebanon, Syria, Palestine where government is only worried about how much they can steal and let people govern themselves. Do you even see Lebanese army stepping in to curb the firing of missles on Israel? I don't think so. US would have had every damn armed unit, killing without questions if some morons started killing and kidnapping Mexican soldiers.

You see the difference, I hope? If not, it's time for your "Explosive Belt assembly and use for dummies" lesson.

here's a great article about the nature of conflict in the region, great read:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/weeklystand...bombsoverbeirut

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No one wants to die. Even people who want to go to heaven don’t want to die to get there. And yet death is the destination we all share. No one has ever escaped it. And that is as it should be, because Death is very likely the single best invention of Life. It is Life’s change agent. It clears out the old to make way for the new. Right now the new is you, but someday not too long from now, you will gradually become the old and be cleared away. Sorry to be so dramatic, but it is quite true.

--Steve Jobs (1955 - 2011)

first of all, jesus wept people! lets try to keep this thread increasing at a steady rate of no more than a page a day.

second thanks for clearing things up epicurus. i was also wondering if those civilian infrustructure have actually been employed as hezbollah operating grounds or was the IDF targeting purely civilian targets? (colateral damage or war crimes?)

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Originally posted by emc^2 It's pointless to argue a lopsided discussion. Many democratic, even "modern" regimes in the world view this confrontation as disproportionate by Israel. Well, I urge you to point out when did Hizbollah warned civilians it will open fire on their territories? Ummm... anyone? Anyone? That's right - never. Israel warned civilians to leave the territories that they will be shelling. I don't recall a single country at war doing that. Yet they did. Those who chose to stay, took their chances and were dumb. Not victims. Dumb. They got nowhere to go, you say? Well, last I checked people were responsible for controlling their circumstances. Hizbollah took the role of patron saint and took the very people it claims to represent and protect hostage. It deliberately positions its weapons amidst civilians to either reduce the chance of retaliation or to create a picture of the satan-Israel that Iran and other extremist governments and organizations want to show the world. "See, they're killing civilians". Tell me - if police acosts a hostage taker who is killing police and civilians, exactly how many lives will it take before the cops kill the hostage along with the hostage-taker to reduce further body count? I'd say rather quickly. And take the consequences. Hizbollah has only itself to blame for the wrath they bring on the very people they say they represent. Truth is that they are a rogue terrorist group, responsible for the blood of their people. There's no further argument to make - you either take the side of terrorists or side of sane people. Sane person does not kidnap another person or blow himself up in the midst of civilians. Arabs will be martyrs at the hands of their own puppeteers - the terrorists that don't give them any choice not to be martyrs. Israel has the right to exist and no measure is too extrodinary to ensure that uncontrollable, dark-age retards and fanatics say or do otherwise. I applaud world powers for having the balls and nerve to tollerate terrorists and their sponsor states in Palestine, Iran, Syria, Lebanon and not turn those countries into shiny pieces of glass, visible from space.

what you still dont understand and i beg you to try is that its HEZBOLLAH that attacked israel not lebanon. its not the lebanese people or governments fault for the attack. israel is attacking a third party that is unfortunately stuck in the middle of this conflict. thats why the attack is a disgrace.

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Originally posted by emc^2 Now, you have countries like Lebanon, Syria, Palestine

a litlle correction.. Pelestine is not a country.

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Israeli air strikes on Lebanon kill 48

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060717...HNlYwMlJVRPUCUl

Israeli terrorism at its finest.

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Originally posted by Dj Alex (ISR) a litlle correction.. Pelestine is not a country.

I was being Politically (in)Correct

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No one wants to die. Even people who want to go to heaven don’t want to die to get there. And yet death is the destination we all share. No one has ever escaped it. And that is as it should be, because Death is very likely the single best invention of Life. It is Life’s change agent. It clears out the old to make way for the new. Right now the new is you, but someday not too long from now, you will gradually become the old and be cleared away. Sorry to be so dramatic, but it is quite true.

--Steve Jobs (1955 - 2011)

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Originally posted by Cyrus King [/b][/size] http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060717...HNlYwMlJVRPUCUl Israeli terrorism at its finest.

next we will try to talk with them..
wait!!
we did try!!

EVERY COUNTRY HAS THE RIGHT TO DEFEND!! GET IT YOU STUPID ASSHOLE