I swore I wouldn't get involved in this thread again, but its just too much fun...

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Originally posted by DJ_LG Our trance music is released first and sometimes only on vinyl so it's the best way to stay fresh.

Not true actually. Theres a lot of tracks that see digital release before the vinyl hits the shelves now. You also might want to take a look in the production forums and see how much "fresh" trance there is available for download. Various tracks that ended up on Somatic Sense, ASOT, Vandit, TranceTribe recordings emerged from there. It doesnt get much more upfront than that!

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Vinyl will weed out the non-enthusiasts just by its price tag.

You really owe it to yourself to think beyond these sorts of ludicrous statements. If you want to use Vinyl, go ahead, but dont label those who embrace digital as some sort of wannabes!?

=)

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Last edited by Axolotyl on Mar-21-2005 at 05:28

For what it's worth, and I haven't read the entire thread, just a few pages:

I prefer to plan on and listen to sets on Vinyl, it just has a warm sound that is simply unreproducible in the digital domain with current technology. It's that nice sound of analog.

Plus I know for a fact that the DJ is having a good time because you can't not with the heavy feel of turntables and vinyl.

If you're poor...go w/CDs...

If you're rich...go w/vinyl...

This debate will never end.

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Originally posted by DJ_LG When I say DJ's I mean the real ones like me and you that mix and have a passion for our hobbie and lifestyle not like those dickheads that call themselves dj's who play top 40 and Karaoke on a Friday night down at the local pub.

DJing means different things to many people. And if entertaining a crowd in that way is what floats your boat then you are living your dream (admittedly easier to achieve than ours). Besides, you would be surprised what you can learn in terms of dancefloor dynamics even by playing those kinds of gigs. And it's not as easy as you think.

CDs are good. I use them more and more especially now that I have been offered a residency in Ibiza ever other week during the whole summer. I am not going to be taking as much vinyl with me as I was previously to gigs.
Flying with vinyl can be a nightmare.

Cheers
Nem

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Originally posted by Nemesis44 now that I have been offered a residency in Ibiza ever other week during the whole summer.

thats fucken awesome dude. congrats!

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Once you’ve mixed on a cdj 1000 with stored loops and cue points on your memory card, i can't understand why’d you want to mix on vinyl.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN thats fucken awesome dude. congrats!

Thanks, yes happy about that one two... I will give peeps details just in case you make it Ibiza way. Would be cool to hook up with TAs.

Hey Ghostface!

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Once you’ve mixed on a cdj 1000 with stored loops and cue points on your memory card, i can't understand why’d you want to mix on vinyl.

I agree with you, CDJing is actually lots of fun. The technology is awesome on a CDJ and provides lots of extra bits to enjoy.
I can actually see this being the way forward. It's not a medium of the future it's very much a medium of right now. It's a fact.

I still enjoy vinyl but CDs have a firm place in my set these days.

Cheers
Nem

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I have turntables, but am considering cd tables. What is better the Numark CDX Premium Direct Drive CD Turntable or the Pioneer?

He he, the way I see it is this... If I didn't play CDs I wouldn't be able to play productions from people like yourself.

Will be testing some of yours this weekend. Got three gigs set up so will give them a full work out.

All the best
Nem

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Originally posted by TranceGeek because when you pay for a vinyl record, you pay for a right to play that track, with mp3s you don't?

that is by far the most stupidest thing I've ever read, have you ever read the fine print on the sticker on your vinyls? it cleary states no public performances of this music is allowed, period! Too funny you think by paying for the media your paying for the rights to publicly perform with that media?

AHA! Someone is paying attention... now what if the rules were changed so that you WERE allowed to do those things - simply being called or referenced and covering the general use for a 12" record - "Licensed for Vinyl DJ Mixed Use Only" and even permitted to do certain things with records that did give you that very permission - but only when the actual vinyl record is used - not a digital "copy" of it?

Well guess what. Black Tiger Recordings has been doing this since its first release in 2003. By purchasing the 12" vinyl record we permit you to include the record into a mixed set or perform it publicly without fear of being sued by us. After all that's what we put the records out for in the first place. For Vinyl DJs to go out and use either in a mixed set at a show, on a radio station, and even - now get this - use in a mixed set you offer for sale in limited numbers (max 250 CD-R copies in a single run or 500 glass mastered CD copies, or in a mixed set released online with a max encoded stereo bit rate of 160kbps)!

Now what if there was a way to take things another step and provide for a platform to legally track make available those mixed sets sold, bringing in the artists and the labels as well as the DJ a cut on each set sold while contributing to that DJ and the artists "stature" in a system that could be deployed to make it all a one stop shop for DJ mixes - but only done off vinyl records (because the "license" is a lot harder to "devalue" as apposed to doing this with digital copies which are nearly impossible to track in terms of sales and final copies actually purchased, used in a set released through such a system), and only records "pre-cleared" though this system??

While we are currently the only lable we know of doing this, we have laid the ground work for others to get on board and we are talking about it with some of the other smaller labels like ourselves - who also happen to be run by DJs and producers who actually care about the future of Dance music. THIS IS D.E.J.I.

BTR-005 is the first full "stage 1" comlpete release which covers the bases for making such a system go with special numbers on the label for registration by a DJ who purchased it and wants to put it into a set. There are lot of reasons why this kind of system would effectively hit the reset switch on the current state of at least our industry and scene. It's something to think about.

All that ranting and raving I did in the other parts of this thread may have just become REALLY CLEAR to some people, but if not, please email me with any questions you may have about it either as vinyl DJ, producer or perhaps even as a label or something thinking about starting a label.

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