LOL, legal definition of torture? You are joking right? Just because Obama does not want to follow through with prosecuting does not mean it did not happen.

Again if you are saying they did not order the torture or profit from the blood of your own people then maybe you should hit the books before you talk and make more outlandish assumptions.

http://www.aclu.org/safefree/general/olc_memos.html

In case you haven't watched today's news, here are the "torture memos" issued by Bush-Cheney's Justice Department which enabled the top administration bosses and their underlings in the CIA to carry out illegal torture tactics on prisoners. War criminals like Dick Cheney still justify their actions with impunity. Why should he worry? The weak-kneed Obama administration, even while making the memos public, has made it clear that it intends to paper over the lawlessness of its predecessors for the sake of moving forward.

18-page memo, dated August 1, 2002, from Jay Bybee

46-page memo, dated May 10, 2005, from Steven Bradbury

20-page memo, dated May 10, 2005, from Steven Bradbury

40-page memo, dated May 30, 2005, from Steven Bradbury


Education you say? Yes please get some, actually a whole lot because it seems you are very young and have a lot to learn.

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Originally posted by culorut LOL, legal definition of torture? You are joking right? Just because Obama does not want to follow through with prosecuting does not mean it did not happen. Again if you are saying they did not order the torture or profit from the blood of your own people then maybe you should hit the books before you talk and make more outlandish assumptions. http://www.aclu.org/safefree/general/olc_memos.html In case you haven't watched today's news, here are the "torture memos" issued by Bush-Cheney's Justice Department which enabled the top administration bosses and their underlings in the CIA to carry out illegal torture tactics on prisoners. War criminals like Dick Cheney still justify their actions with impunity. Why should he worry? The weak-kneed Obama administration, even while making the memos public, has made it clear that it intends to paper over the lawlessness of its predecessors for the sake of moving forward. 18-page memo, dated August 1, 2002, from Jay Bybee 46-page memo, dated May 10, 2005, from Steven Bradbury 20-page memo, dated May 10, 2005, from Steven Bradbury 40-page memo, dated May 30, 2005, from Steven Bradbury Education you say? Yes please get some, actually a whole lot because it seems you are very young and have a lot to learn.

Torture? I said 'treason'. Legal definition of treason.

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Originally posted by yukii Torture? I said 'treason'. Legal definition of treason.

Really?

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You said torture, if you feel confused about it I suggest you slow down for a second and collect your thoughts before you hit the keyboard.

For one I could not give a shit what you think the legal definition of treason is. Murdering your own innocent people because or their own false hoods makes you an enemy of the state and a traitor. Look below and tell me what the last administration have done is not "serious" enough for you.

In law, treason is the crime that covers some of the more serious acts of disloyalty to one's sovereign or nation. Historically, treason also covered the murder of specific social superiors, such as the murder of a husband by his wife (treason against the king was known as high treason and treason against a lesser superior was petit treason). A person who commits treason is known in law as a traitor.

Obama does not wish to pursue the torture issue choosing instead to move forward and ignore the ugly past of the last administration. This does not mean it did not happen, he does not have the balls (at least for now) to bring it to the table and a few people around here seem to be missing some balls as well.

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Originally posted by culorut For one I could not give a shit what you think the legal definition of treason is. Murdering your own innocent people because or their own false hoods makes you an enemy of the state and a traitor. Look below and tell me what the last administration have done is not "serious" enough for you.

You haven't one iota of truth to your statement, "Murdering your own innocent people." Don't give a shit what I think treason is. Give a shit what the constitution defines it as...

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In law, treason is the crime that covers some of the more serious acts of disloyalty to one's sovereign or nation. Historically, treason also covered the murder of specific social superiors, such as the murder of a husband by his wife (treason against the king was known as high treason and treason against a lesser superior was petit treason). A person who commits treason is known in law as a traitor.

Stop using that definition. This is the LEGAL definition of treason...

"Article 3: Section 3. Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court. The Congress shall have power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted."

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Obama does not wish to pursue the torture issue choosing instead to move forward and ignore the ugly past of the last administration. This does not mean it did not happen, he does not have the balls (at least for now) to bring it to the table and a few people around here seem to be missing some balls as well.

Then why the fuck are they releasing more photos? Why are they talking about prosecuting former Justice Dept. officials. Once again, you show you don't know what the fuck you'r talking about...

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and yukki meant treason but typed torture.
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Still waiting for the people to charge, the charge, and the evidence for the charges, which you so adamantly advocate everyday on this forum. Apparently, you want to charge Cheney with treason. But refuse to provide evidence beyond, "He murdered his own people." What a fucking joke...

911 was an inside job all of society is an inside job. The Matrix is just a web of conspiracies. You guys need to wake up, 911 is just scratching the surface.

You guys have been manipulated by mass deception. And by the way, I suffer no paranoia - everyone who believes in the mass media's propaganda are the ones who are paranoid. My vibrations are high, real wealth comes from great health. Fear is a slow wave-length, and they use it. It's called fear-mongering.

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Originally posted by PegCityEvolve 911 was an inside job all of society is an inside job. The Matrix is just a web of conspiracies. You guys need to wake up, 911 is just scratching the surface. You guys have been manipulated by mass deception. And by the way, I suffer no paranoia - everyone who believes in the mass media's propaganda are the ones who are paranoid. My vibrations are high, real wealth comes from great health. Fear is a slow wave-length, and they use it. It's called fear-mongering.

Whose they? And what have "they" done? What crime are you charging "they" with?

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Whose they? And what have "they" done? What crime are you charging "they" with?

I believe he did not mention anything about "they". You did and that's exactly why you will never get it.

The greatest crime in history is the one the people (sheep) cannot see.

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Originally posted by culorut I believe he did not mention anything about "they". You did and that's exactly why you will never get it. The greatest crime in history is the one the people (sheep) cannot see.

Here's what he said since you don't know how to read...

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Originally posted by PegCityEvolve Fear is a slow wave-length, and they use it. It's called fear-mongering.

What, are you two butt buddies? Or is that your alt? Strange the moment a TIT posts some 9/11 bullshit, you pop right in.

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Originally posted by PegCityEvolve 911 was an inside job all of society is an inside job. The Matrix is just a web of conspiracies. You guys need to wake up, 911 is just scratching the surface. You guys have been manipulated by mass deception. And by the way, I suffer no paranoia - everyone who believes in the mass media's propaganda are the ones who are paranoid. My vibrations are high, real wealth comes from great health. Fear is a slow wave-length, and they use it. It's called fear-mongering.

pffff
you need to get your chunky ass out of all those fantasy/matrix novels, take your final fantasy shirt off, and go for a run.

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Originally posted by culorut I believe he did not mention anything about "they". You did and that's exactly why you will never get it. The greatest crime in history is the one the people (sheep) cannot see.

glad to see you back!

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Posted by Omega_Blue that's it, fuck it i'm quitting ta forever. fuck if i'm gonna get trolled by fucking yukii. dammit!

They. Uncle Sam. Big brother. The Masters of Puppets. The Global Elite. The Illuminati.

What did they do? No point in trying to explain to one who is not willing to accept. You have to discover on your own, don't trust ANY band of individuals. There is only one truth.

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Originally posted by yukii pffff you need to get your chunky ass out of all those fantasy/matrix novels, take your final fantasy shirt off, and go for a run.

Far from chunky, my friend. I work out three days a week, and run track 45 minutes every morning. Never liked Final Fantasy, either. In fact I'm for knowledge, specifically the suppressed. This is no fantasy, but now well documented in modern underground science, although still controversial in mainstream. Truth is stranger than fiction, it's mind over matter. There is NO fixed reality; I suggest you look up "left-brain imprisonment".

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Originally posted by PegCityEvolve They. Uncle Sam. Big brother. The Masters of Puppets. The Global Elite. The Illuminati.

You don't get it. I'm asking for specific names. And I'm asking you what crime did they commit. You are the prosecutor. You are making very serious allegations. We are the jury. Screaming Illuminati isn't going to win you your case. You seem to not even know who your talking about.

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What did they do? No point in trying to explain to one who is not willing to accept. You have to discover on your own, don't trust ANY band of individuals. There is only one truth.

I see. I'm supposed to take your holier than thou word on it right? FAIL.

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Originally posted by PegCityEvolve They. Uncle Sam. Big brother. The Masters of Puppets. The Global Elite. The Illuminati. What did they do? No point in trying to explain to one who is not willing to accept. You have to discover on your own, don't trust ANY band of individuals. There is only one truth. Far from chunky, my friend. I work out three days a week, and run track 45 minutes every morning. Never liked Final Fantasy, either. In fact I'm for knowledge, specifically the suppressed. This is no fantasy, but now well documented in modern underground science, although still controversial in mainstream. Truth is stranger than fiction, it's mind over matter. There is NO fixed reality; I suggest you look up "left-brain imprisonment".

Look, i have absolutely no problem with conspiracy theories. I have no problem in finding out im wrong- or finding out that my concept of reality is false.. finding 'truth'..

problem is, im waiting. i have read articles & debated with colorut & nothing he has said (or anyone else) has truly intrigued me or made me think- "wow! he has a point!" .. maybe he's right.

so until i get valuable information, i don't see any real 'truth' or 'reality' .. i see mine & you have yours. for that, no one should be called a sheep.

plus, naming out 'they' is so ambiguous
uncle sam- the gov?
big brother- you gota be kidding me...
m.of the p.- yeah, i had my metallica phase in highschool
.. illuminati?!?!?!?!?!?!!!1 that was the funniest one dude. seriously..



how could you possibly in your right mind put 'illuminati' in such a debate? let's all stand up for the NWO

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Posted by Omega_Blue that's it, fuck it i'm quitting ta forever. fuck if i'm gonna get trolled by fucking yukii. dammit!