so then the US will be doing them a faivor by nuking the cock suckers!

everyone knows that this is connected to Osama Bin Laden, the only reason he is not taking the blame is because if he would, afganistan would be nuked 2 hours after the attack!

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Originally posted by plastikE well well..... the citizens in Afghanistan support their government....their government aids/supports bin laden, and bin laden supports terrorism, war acts against the U.S......therefore the citizens are supporting those terrorist acts think people We should invade afghanistan....im serious

once its proven that binladen is responsible (which i think he is), if afghanistan doesn't agree to hand him and his organization over to the us, then then they should take action. you cant just go around bombing any country you suspect did something wrong. i mean im not trying to say what happened wasn't horrendous, but you are jumpin the gun a bit and taking out anger on some of the wrong people. you think the 10 year old kids there, for example, are responsible too? there are some people there that are just as innocent as here. jus my opinion, peace

You know, its obvously him, but I dont think hes the only one responsible, cuz you need a heck of alot of resources for this, and planing, I think Iraq and palestine might of had something to do with this too, but very little

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Originally posted by InsomnEac once its proven that binladen is responsible (which i think he is), if afghanistan doesn't agree to hand him and his organization over to the us, then then they should take action. you cant just go around bombing any country you suspect did something wrong. i mean im not trying to say what happened wasn't horrendous, but you are jumpin the gun a bit and taking out anger on some of the wrong people. you think the 10 year old kids there, for example, are responsible too? there are some people there that are just as innocent as here. jus my opinion, peace

yeah I agree on that too, It would be so easy just to raid 'em and finished, but it doesn't work that way, this is a moment of extreme tension, so I guess we leave this somehow to diplomacy or else mayba a real war will start...now they must surely demonstrate that laden was the real mastermind here and then as I said justice will be done. (although wiping them out sounds really temping)

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Obviously the attack against USA has been a great tragedy and those who are responsible should be punished for their horrific actions. However, it will be tricky to prove who these people/organizations are and if NATO starts bombing targets at random, we might start another global-scale war.

Things that shocked me:
1. some people celebrating on the streets and in the Middle East (arabs who thank Allah for that shit, omg)
2. the Iraq government 'approved' the strikes and said USA got what it deserved. That's unbelievable. As far as I know, USA has never attacked anyone without a good reason and certainly not killed innocent civilians on purpose.
3. DPLF (or what the heck it was, Palestinians anyway) first said that they were responsible but a bit later denied everything. I smell a rat.
4. the arab world kept on saying that it could be an american terrorist group behind this (yet there is evidence that the hijackers were arabs).

In attempt to solve things, I think that we should
1. boycott Iraq & Afganistan & others who could have something to do with the incident. Stop exporting supplies, food etc. to these countries, refuse to accept their citizens within the borders of USA, stop the trade between USA and these nations. Of course, this is not possible in full-scale. These countries should be notified that the boycott ends when they bring the terrorists responsible to justice (which, of course, will probably never happen).

2. there's a reward for Osama bin Laden's head. Raise that to some astronomic value like 100 million USD. I think fuckheads like that deserve to die so screw human rights in this case even if he wasn't responsible for this particular case. Some juicy price for other people involved might be in order.

Anyway, my point is that we can't attack unless we have a clue who we should punish for this. And even if we did, 'bombs away' would just plant more hatred. Nevertheless, I think the people responsible for this should be executed since actions like this cannot be tolerated under any circumstances.

I hope events like this never take place again.

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Originally posted by Kia Kaha Yep - he's an idiot - that's why he's gonna be fucking GREAT in a situation like this. Bill Clinton was too politically astute for his own good: he would have done all the political bullshit horse trading, got everyone else in the world's permission first before he went and sorted the situation out, and probably ended up applying some economic sanctions or some such crap.

i disagree with ya there d00d.. i think this could either make or break him. if he fucks this up he will never be liked again.. and the problem is in the US peoples eyes, they want the US and her allies to run around blowin the fuck out of afganistan etc.... this mite not b the answer straight away, and if bush realises this he's gunna have a hard time turnin u lot round... bill clinton opn the other hand, had sense. he would have stepped back an looked at the situation, then acted properly and accordingly.. like he did successfully in libya, have u seen gadaffi doin any terrorism recently? clinton would have been much better in this situation, for example i was watchin the news last nite, and bush was walking around the rubble of the bit of pentagon that got crashed into.. he made what started off like an impressive speech for him, then towaqrds the end, he didnt really know what he was saying,, cuz every uther word was errr, or ummm...

are the FBI blind? c'mon.. the sheer amount of strategic planning that went into this.. the years of training and the careful timing of the plan.. and they leave an ARABIAN flight manual ON THE BACK SEAT of a car... am i the only one that finds that a bit too suss?

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Yeah Tu_face i did think it a bit odd that the manual was in the car. Were they really doing their studying on the way to the airport? Though i do have to admit if i was them i'd be trying to brush up all i could on the subject beforehand.

I'll wait and see on this one

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Just wanted to let you know that one person has been arrested here in Germany that is believed to have something to do with the WTC attack.

They also stated that two of the plane hijackers were enrolled as students in Hamburg, Germany, and that they were from the united arabic emirates.

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Originally posted by Kia Kaha Yep - he's an idiot - that's why he's gonna be fucking GREAT in a situation like this. Bill Clinton was too politically astute for his own good: he would have done all the political bullshit horse trading, got everyone else in the world's permission first before he went and sorted the situation out, and probably ended up applying some economic sanctions or some such crap.

ummm I hate to break it to you but they've been arresting peeps all over the world that were connected to this...some to be known supporters of Bin Laden...and Bush is asking for permission before doing this...he doesn't want to cause WWIII. We already asked Russia if we could use their air space to bomb afghanistan and they agreed and will let us. The U.K. is also behind us as well as Germany who aided us in arresting some in Hamburg. Political policies dictate that the President goes to countries to rally support and to see who is behind him and who isn't. We did this in the Gulf War too. We don't just go into war all alone. And Bush can't go in a nuke some peeps as you so eloquently put it earlier...only Congress can declare War..the president can't. And the president only has certain powers to do air strikes and such without petitioning congress to declare war. I think Bush is handling this very well. We are in the mess largely due to Clinton who stuck his nose in the war between Palestine and Israel...trying to help the peace process while always making it known we were on Israel's side. Who do you think Bin Laden got all this money from??? Palestine is sure to be a funder of this extrimist! So please learn something about the way the US is run...how our goverenment opperates...bc its people like you who screwed up the election this year with all these sillie notions about politics and such

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and iran iraq the united arab emirates are all economically sanctioned already....i work in foreign exchange and those counrties are banned from us trading with them

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Originally posted by twilochik We don't just go into war all alone...

only cuz they darn't.. (jk)

i am waiting a while before i judge how bush is handling it.. i think he will either do really well or just collapse..

either way i still think he's a wanker.. just now he's a wanker with a point & that point will be backed by us 100%.. basically, whoever did this to the WTC has got the 18 member states of NATO to fuck with now..

we english folk may joke about hating u yankees.. but this one calls for us to close ranks

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